Just a friendly reminder

[Cardinalrule]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/1999/11/23/memphis_price_ap/

 

This one is even better:

 

http://www.memphisflyer.com/backissues/issue561/sport561.htm

 

And let's not forget that he is a McNeese discard:

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2006-07-28-mcneese-price-fired_x.htm

 

 

 

 

 

[Cardinalrule]

Lol....not one single comment.

[geezer]

All of those points have been raised in other threads. Price is not my preference but I do believe in second chances. His wife stuck with him, the gig at McNeese may have had as much to do as mentioned elsewhere with effects from hurricane Rita as it was his abilities. I don't know all of the issues, but what I do know is whoever gets the LU job has his work cut out for him. Personally I want LU to win at least 70% of their games every year and I do not want to play lower division schools or even patty cake D1 programs, but I know that turnaround isn't going to happen over night.

[eagle eye]

All of those points have been raised in other threads. Price is not my preference but I do believe in second chances. His wife stuck with him, the gig at McNeese may have had as much to do as mentioned elsewhere with effects from hurricane Rita as it was his abilities. I don't know all of the issues, but what I do know is whoever gets the LU job has his work cut out for him. Personally I want LU to win at least 70% of their games every year and I do not want to play lower division schools or even patty cake D1 programs, but I know that turnaround isn't going to happen over night.

 

I would be interested in your opinion of what is largely being called a "patty cake" schedule Witchita State has ridden into the NCAA tournament. They have beaten every team on their schedule-conference and non conference-so why are people giving them such grief? If Lamar had the relatively same schedule and they won the SLC tournament and made the NCAA's as something higher than a 14, 15 or 16 seed I would say the Golden Triangle would be fighting tooth and nail for t-shirts and caps and other swag with many planning to make the trip to where ever the regional games in Lamar's bracket would be held. I'm telling you right now, if Lamar wins the Lion's share of it's games regardless of the competition people would show up and support the team. You gonna tell me after at 4-26 season you'd balk at a 26-4 year? Please. String together a few years of that type of year and program would probably run itself because it would be recognized as a perennial winner. Want to move to the Sun Belt? Having a winning basketball program won't hurt. Who's to say that's what got Lamar in the Sun Belt the first time years ago.

[LUSportsFan]

In defense of Wichita State, they ended up with a #4 RPI per today's NCAA RPI rating.

 

I didn't take Geezer's post as a negative. I'd like all the things he listed. Winning 70% of the games equates to 21 wins a season. One thing I liked about the last two years was that our schedule was upgraded from recent history. While other teams in the conference were on the verge of having to forfeit games because of too many sub D-I's, we didn't have to worry about that. The next step is to win the games we schedule.

 

I too don't expect miracles getting to where I think we should be, but I'd like to see progress. We should always be in the top 3 in our conference.

[eagle eye]

I agree with Geezer to but to cite the RPI as a justification for anything is like saying the QB rating in football means something. It has been pointed out to me on many occasions the QB rating is meaningless. The RPI is right along to same lines. BTW, I wasn't putting down Witchita State. Not even a little bit. I WANT Lamar to be like the Shockers in terms of winning. Wouldn't it be awesome to go to the Final Four like WSU did last year? Hell ya it would! I've heard on the ESPN talk shows this morning all about the weak schedule WSU played but the fact is, they won and on the strength of recent winning seasons they got the benefit of the doubt when seedings were handed out. Or so you'd be led to believe since so many people seem to begrudge WSU the #1 seed in the Midwest Region. Isn't this the level of success we want for Lamar. It seems impossible to attain that level of success but truth is we were there. Our best season was a trip to the Sweet Sixteen and that's pretty friggin awesome. Who's to say we can't get back to that level? That's why the search for a new coach is so important. We get it right and we are back on track to be where we want to be.

[geezer]

Yes Wichita State, Butler, Gonzaga those are the kind of programs that LU needs to become, but understand getting there is a lot tougher and takes a lot longer than you might think and staying there is even harder. Once you get to that level every big name school looking for a coach is looking to steal yours. Wichita State played in the final four like fifty years ago. their coach at the time was Harry Miller and was lured to a PAC 8 school Oregon State. They may have gotten back to the NCAA tourney within the next few years, I don't remember but it took getting a great home town player that wanted to stay home and two other great forwards to make it back to the sweet sixteen in the 1980s and another 30 years to last year to get back to the final four. Believe me they have had several dogs of coaches over those years also.

[LUSportsFan]

Mark Turgeon was pretty good at Wichita State. The three coaches before him had losing records with the program.

 

Turgeon is a relatively recent example of another successful coach hired away from the Shockers, though. He was hired away to Texas A&M after Billy Giilispie went to Kentucky to lay an egg. Turgeon had a successful run at A&M. He might have been better off staying there looking at his record at Maryland.

 

Wichita State made a really good hire when Turgeon left. The Shockers haven't skipped a beat.

 

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[geezer]

It will be worth watching the next few years what happens at Wichita as impact of Creighton leaving has on the Missouri Valley Conference. Typically over the last decade the MVC has had at least two teams in the NCAA tourney every year and Creighton was quite often one of them. Gonzaga as a member of the West Coast Conference has typically only had St Mary's as a real conference competitor.