Is OC bad or dumbing down offense?

[lcard05]

Has Kueck simplified the offense for Berry? Or is it Kueck is over the hill and needs to move on. Berry has always seemed to move the ball till he gets to the redzone. Does the pressue get to him or is he handcuffed by a sad OC?? Lots of questions...your thoughts???

[Card Nation]

I honestly believe the answer to your question is simple. Too much pressure is placed on the QB. I understand that the offense is supposed to emulate Boise St or Texas Tech's offense. However, it is evident that we cannot consistently score and move the ball that way. See Grambling, Sam Houston, and the first half of the central Ark game film. In the second half against Cen Ark we 'ran' the ball and took pressure off of Berry allowing him to play at his best and we scored 2 td's easily and we were on our way to a third TD against the second best defense in the conference. Then, the last set of downs we run for 8 yards on first down then throw 3 straight incompletions. Kueck isnt over the hill in my opinion and Caleb Berry is a very, very good QB, but we just need to balance our attack more with the run.

 

 

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[coachacola]

There has been some questionable play calling too. Is Kueck or Woodard making the final decisions? The defense was terrible until Bill Bradley was hired and we've seen a big improvement. Kueck was brought in at the same time and the offense has barely improved. SELA has improved a lot over the last few years but Lamar's offense is holding this team back.

[Card Nation]

 

There has been some questionable play calling too. Is Kueck or Woodard making the final decisions? The defense was terrible until Bill Bradley was hired and we've seen a big improvement. Kueck was brought in at the same time and the offense has barely improved. SELA has improved a lot over the last few years but Lamar's offense is holding this team back.

 

In Woodards post game press conference, he took responsibility for those play calls. I don't know who actually made those calls though. Woodard earned my respect for taking responsibility for those calls regardless if he or Kueck made the call. At least He isnt like Mac Brown who blames everybody else for Texas' struggles.

 

You are correct that the offense is holding the team back. The defense is very, very good.

 

Some on here will say fire the coaches, i say run the ball a little more.

 

 

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[puddin tane]

Well, for starters, Tech passes a helluva lot more and Boise runs more than they pass. Lamar is almost dead even run/pass.

 

I think Woodard has Kueck's hands tied when it comes to the passing game. We seldom work the middle or try to stretch the field. Berry is a good qb, they aren't dumbing it down for him. And we gotta do something against the blitzes.

 

I think UCA exposed LU's secondary

 

Hell, I say pass it more! One team left on our schedule that I think of and go "they might score like crazy " on us...and that's SFA

[Card Nation]

Haha!! I knew you would say pass it more. And I am for whatever works, believe you me.

 

I really think that UCA got lucky against our defense. I think that they complete those passes maybe one out of 20 times.... and they just got us on the 1 in 20

 

With regard to Boise St, I am talking about the Boise St of 2 or 3 years ago when they were good and passed about 90% of the time. I haven't kept up with them this year.

 

The overall pass/rush numbers dont really tell the whole story because QB runs and sacks are included in the overall run/pass overall figures. And Im not talking about the token runs sending the rb right into the belly button of the D tackle. We did the token runs in the first half of the UCA game but not in the second half. But if you check out the first half stats and the play by play of the UCA game on the link below and compare the first half stats to the second half you can see what I am talking about and the increased productivity in the second half.

 

http://www.southland.org/portals/0/content/fls/18400//stats/football/2013/ucalu.htm#GAME.SCO

 

 

 

 

[puddin tane]

You know it....I'm for pass, pass, and more pass....but I'd like to see more routes over 5 yards

 

I don't think the majority of college football teams can defend a good passing offense....LU and McN showed you can stop a good FCS running team

 

I dunno, UCA worked over the same corner time after time

[nickels]

Woodard earned my respect for taking responsibility for those calls regardless if he or Kueck made the call. At least He isnt like Mac Brown who blames everybody else for Texas' struggles.

No he just blames the fans. So much better... ::)

[puddin tane]

Haha!! I knew you would say pass it more. And I am for whatever works, believe you me.

 

I really think that UCA got lucky against our defense. I think that they complete those passes maybe one out of 20 times.... and they just got us on the 1 in 20

 

With regard to Boise St, I am talking about the Boise St of 2 or 3 years ago when they were good and passed about 90% of the time. I haven't kept up with them this year.

 

The overall pass/rush numbers dont really tell the whole story because QB runs and sacks are included in the overall run/pass overall figures. And Im not talking about the token runs sending the rb right into the belly button of the D tackle. We did the token runs in the first half of the UCA game but not in the second half. But if you check out the first half stats and the play by play of the UCA game on the link below and compare the first half stats to the second half you can see what I am talking about and the increased productivity in the second half.

 

http://www.southland.org/portals/0/content/fls/18400//stats/football/2013/ucalu.htm#GAME.SCO

 

just for the record...I wouldnt have called 3 pass plays to end that game...hell, i mighta lined up in the power I and given it to Tebo

[Card Nation]

Understood.

 

Tebo is a beast. Glad we have him for 3 more years.

 

I think we should have passed on second down then ran it on third and then kicked the field goal on fourth.

 

The positive is that Saturday is almost here and hopefully we can move forward and play well against a very good SELA team.

 

 

 

 

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[NorthoftheBorder]

Woodard earned my respect for taking responsibility for those calls regardless if he or Kueck made the call. At least He isnt like Mac Brown who blames everybody else for Texas' struggles.

No he just blames the fans. So much better... ::)

 

I seriously haven't seen the final score from the McNeese/SHSU game. Can you tell me what it was?

[geezer]

McNeese won by 8, 31 - 23

[LamarAlum]

 

 

There has been some questionable play calling too. Is Kueck or Woodard making the final decisions? The defense was terrible until Bill Bradley was hired and we've seen a big improvement. Kueck was brought in at the same time and the offense has barely improved. SELA has improved a lot over the last few years but Lamar's offense is holding this team back.

 

In Woodards post game press conference, he took responsibility for those play calls. I don't know who actually made those calls though. Woodard earned my respect for taking responsibility for those calls regardless if he or Kueck made the call. At least He isnt like Mac Brown who blames everybody else for Texas' struggles.

 

You are correct that the offense is holding the team back. The defense is very, very good.

 

Some on here will say fire the coaches, i say run the ball a little more.

 

 

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I don't think the OC is bad I think he's terrible. I would respect Woodward more if he got rid of his good friend Kueck by taking notes from Mac Brown and get rid of the problem ASAP or he should take the full blame for all the bad play calling and leave with him so we can bring in a staff who understands you play to win the game.

[Card Nation]

 

 

 

There has been some questionable play calling too. Is Kueck or Woodard making the final decisions? The defense was terrible until Bill Bradley was hired and we've seen a big improvement. Kueck was brought in at the same time and the offense has barely improved. SELA has improved a lot over the last few years but Lamar's offense is holding this team back.

 

In Woodards post game press conference, he took responsibility for those play calls. I don't know who actually made those calls though. Woodard earned my respect for taking responsibility for those calls regardless if he or Kueck made the call. At least He isnt like Mac Brown who blames everybody else for Texas' struggles.

 

You are correct that the offense is holding the team back. The defense is very, very good.

 

Some on here will say fire the coaches, i say run the ball a little more.

 

 

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I don't think the OC is bad I think he's terrible. I would respect Woodward more if he got rid of his good friend Kueck by taking notes from Mac Brown and get rid of the problem ASAP or he should take the full blame for all the bad play calling and leave with him so we can bring in a staff who understands you play to win the game.

 

I was ready to fire the coaches after last week too. For me personally though, this is what makes football fun. But, if we take our emotion out of it and look at what Lamar has become given the fact that this is Lamar's first senior class... Along with the productivity of the current freshman class...Its hard for me to feel negatively about the coaches and the current direction of the team. Noone on this board will say that this isnt the best team we have had. If you are just about wins then so be it and let the chips fall where they may, but if 'progress' is the measuring stick then we give the coaches 3 more years. Just my opinion ... I may change my mind after Saturday though!!! Haha

 

 

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[puddin tane]

..3 more years of dull Ray, they'll be having buy 1 get 5 free tickets

[Card Nation]

 

..3 more years of dull Ray, they'll be having buy 1 get 5 free tickets

 

Lol!

 

 

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[LamarAlum]

3 MORE YEARS ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[Card Nation]

 

3 MORE YEARS ARE YOU SERIOUS?

 

It is difficult defending my statement and position at this particular moment. I am disappointed in tonights game.

 

 

 

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[LUSportsFan]

I saw some good things in last night's game, but there were way too many negatives.

 

Very disappointed. I wasn't necessarily expecting a win, but I was expecting the team to show up.

 

I haven't given up on the team. I doubt that I ever will. There's a lot that needs to be fixed, though.

 

Last night's game reinforced a growing belief that staff changes may been needed. I think Coach Woodard did a great job at restarting football from nothing. Before last night's game, it looked like we were on the right track. We took a huge step backward last night, though. The team looked lethargic. The play calling was predictable. SLU punched gaping holes in our defense and exposed our defensive backs. There may be an underlying cause other than poor coaching or a team that didn't show up on the field. If so, that's still on the coaching staff. They are the motivators. They are paid to put the team in a position to at least be respectible. I saw none of that last night.

 

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[dirtybird]

The bright spot is, Lamar has some good young players, doing well on the field. Ma be time to give some of the other younger guys a shot.

[dirtybird]

The bright spot is, Lamar has some good young players, doing well on the field. May be time to give some of the other younger guys a shot.

[geezer]

While they are much improved, both OL and DL are still the biggest weakness on Lamar's team. OL does not consistently pass block effectively, especially against any kind of blitz. The run game is least effective attempting to go up the middle, it relies on Berry's decision making on whether to hand off or not and the the running back getting to the edge. Against better defenses the OL weakness shows up. DL doesn't get enough pressure on the qb without help, which gives the opponent time to find the open receiver putting pressure on the DBs to make plays to stop the pass. SELA had a mobile qb with a pretty accurate arm so he put a lot of pressure on the LBs hence SELA was able to score at will. Kickoff coverage is probably Lamar's biggest weakness, if we kick it deep and don't get it through the endzone the other team seams to get a great return and a short field. So we pooch kick it and give them good to great field position.

[dirtybird]

While they are much improved, both OL and DL are still the biggest weakness on Lamar's team. OL does not consistently pass block effectively, especially against any kind of blitz. The run game is least effective attempting to go up the middle, it relies on Berry's decision making on whether to hand off or not and the the running back getting to the edge. Against better defenses the OL weakness shows up. DL doesn't get enough pressure on the qb without help, which gives the opponent time to find the open receiver putting pressure on the DBs to make plays to stop the pass. SELA had a mobile qb with a pretty accurate arm so he put a lot of pressure on the LBs hence SELA was able to score at will. Kickoff coverage is probably Lamar's biggest weakness, if we kick it deep and don't get it through the endzone the other team seams to get a great return and a short field. So we pooch kick it and give them good to great field position.

I don't buy that. if you look at the sacks on Lamars QB. how many are coverage sacks. Now the outside rush has hurt the Cardinals all season. To me the play calling is what has killed the Cardinals this year on Offense.

Against Sam was it the O line's fault that we threw a pic in the end zone? Against Arkansas was it their fault that when we just ran 8 yards on 1st down, then tried three passes that fell to the ground, with a minute left in game ? Was it the D line's fault that Central Arkansas QB threw a jump ball in double coverage, and was caught by their receiver ? I could keep going all the way back to the Grambling game, but I think that's enough.

[LamarAlum]

The bright spot is, Lamar has some good young players, doing well on the field. May be time to give some of the other younger guys a shot.

I think it's time to see a lot of new faces on the field because what we're using doesn't seem to be working. Also what happened to Kevin Johnson he went from being the best receiver to not playing receiver at all, is he still in Kueck's dog house? I hate to say this again but it's time for a coaching change, the friend network isn't working. The team has gotten worse since Kueck arrived.

[Card Nation]

 

The bright spot is, Lamar has some good young players, doing well on the field. May be time to give some of the other younger guys a shot.

I think it's time to see a lot of new faces on the field because what we're using doesn't seem to be working. Also what happened to Kevin Johnson he went from being the best receiver to not playing receiver at all, is he still in Kueck's dog house? I hate to say this again but it's time for a coaching change, the friend network isn't working. The team has gotten worse since Kueck arrived.

 

If Kevin Johnson is eligible to play, meaning he is not suspended, he has made the grades, how in the world can any coach justify the fact that he does not play on the offense??

 

Because of something he said last year? Doghouse? Give me a break. He served his suspension, did what was asked of him and still doesn't play. So, this teaches him if you do what you are supposed to do you may still get treated unfairly. Shame on the coaches.

 

It seams as though the coaches are making a business decision(play the best receiver you have or not) with their emotions( im not playing him because he did not give me the respect i wanted last year).

 

If coaches want to make a decision as controversial as not playing a player like KJ, you had better win.

 

 

 

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