geezer Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 I believe the merged conference stabilizes the WAC and Sunbelt so they either don't have to invite anyone or can take their time and wait for who they really want which means Lamar would need to be competitive in all sports especially football.
coachacola Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 The WAC still wants to add 2 football playing schools for the 2013-2014 academic year. I guess Lamar is the school of last resort for the WAC, but with all the crazy movement going on, Lamar could be taking a big gamble joining the WAC. If La Tech, Texas State and UTSA remain in the WAC then Lamar could develop some nice rivalries with those schools to replace those with McNeese, SHSU and SFA. During the next several months, the WAC will focus on securing two additional football playing members and we anticipate that those two institutions would begin play in the WAC for the 2013-14 academic year. While the pool of possible new members are all located in the WAC footprint, we will not identify any of them at this time. Once the current national landscape has settled, we will begin conversations with these institutions. Link: http://www.wacsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10100&ATCLID=205322724
jdcurran235 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 If cusa gets raided is it still the better conference. Cusa might not be able to get schools from the wac SBC Mac to come over.
Big T Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 CUSA and Mountain west are now one conference. Therefore if CUSA gets raided it won't really hurt them. There are already to many schools between the two conferences.
Big T Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 From what i have heard and read things are looking like it will happen though. No it's not a sure done deal but things are looking more and more like it is going to happen.
jdcurran235 Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 There is still a lot of speculation that it doesn't happen due to TV contract issue. Basically the merger without UofH and such does not impress the TV networks. If the MWC wants SD of Idaho they will jump but I am not as sure about the the SBC or WAC getting raided from CUSA. Now the WAC would basically have a tex centric conference. They just add a few SLC teams and they are an inexpensive conf to be in with low travel cost. SBC is stable and why does a team in a stable conf want to go to an unstable CUSA. The CUSA is stuck pulling in FCS moveups as well. Just a different take on all this expansion. Thoughts?
BigRedTrack Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I think with the going/staying / offering/ hold status of the conferences, I believe the movement will wait until after the 1st of the year. Everything is too uncertain until ESPN assesses the situation & decides who should go where.
Big T Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 This may have already been posted but the Mizzou presedent and AD and several others of the Mizzou higher ups are now looking into joining the SEC. To me this would be a horrible move for Mizzou. If anything they should look into the Big-10 not the SEC. They will get eaten up.
TBonesLU Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 This may have already been posted but the Mizzou presedent and AD and several others of the Mizzou higher ups are now looking into joining the SEC. To me this would be a horrible move for Mizzou. If anything they should look into the Big-10 not the SEC. They will get eaten up. I made the same argument for A&M. Kids don't want to play against the best teams in the country; they want to play for them. A&M will not see better recruiting because of this move. Winning schools draw recruits, not being in the bottom tier of a conference.
Big T Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 I disagree. Think of all the Texas players who leave not to just play for these big schools but to play in the SEC. TAMU will be able to get a lot of these players. Also the TAMU traditions and crowds will draw recruits to them. Sure they have always had the tradition and the crowds but not the SEC. Add all three of those together put them on TV for the whole country to see and TAMU will become one of the best teams in the SEC IMO.
Guest CardAmbassador Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 This may have already been posted but the Mizzou presedent and AD and several others of the Mizzou higher ups are now looking into joining the SEC. To me this would be a horrible move for Mizzou. If anything they should look into the Big-10 not the SEC. They will get eaten up. I made the same argument for A&M. Kids don't want to play against the best teams in the country; they want to play for them. A&M will not see better recruiting because of this move. Winning schools draw recruits, not being in the bottom tier of a conference. Hate sounding like the Aggie homer on here but if look at TAMU's recruiting class for 2012 it tells a different story. Anyways, I really haven't kept up with the expansion madness like I used to. Before football season I was all over it but now that football (and especially basketball are started up) I'm going to have a hard time focusing on anything else. The entire situation is too volatile to understand at the moment.
TexGator Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 This may have already been posted but the Mizzou presedent and AD and several others of the Mizzou higher ups are now looking into joining the SEC. To me this would be a horrible move for Mizzou. If anything they should look into the Big-10 not the SEC. They will get eaten up. I made the same argument for A&M. Kids don't want to play against the best teams in the country; they want to play for them. A&M will not see better recruiting because of this move. Winning schools draw recruits, not being in the bottom tier of a conference. Hate sounding like the Aggie homer on here but if look at TAMU's recruiting class for 2012 it tells a different story. Anyways, I really haven't kept up with the expansion madness like I used to. Before football season I was all over it but now that football (and especially basketball are started up) I'm going to have a hard time focusing on anything else. The entire situation is too volatile to understand at the moment. I think their strong recruiting class is a result of beating UT last year and getting to play in the Cotton Bowl. Looking at who they and Texas look to be bringing in next summer, it looks like TAMU will be have to overachieve to not be an also-ran whereas Texas looks young and hungry... so it will be a good match-up. Wait! That's right! They aren't playing anymore!
TexGator Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Now, the reason for me showing up today. I was looking at the HBU web-site (there was a good reason, I swear) and one of the banner articles is that the Southland Conference is going to be on-campus next week. I guess they found their replacement for UT-A. Now, they just have to find replacements for Texas State and UTSA... I'd bet that they're looking to some combination of: UT-Dallas, Central OK, & ACU for the other spots, if they're wanting back to 12.
Big T Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 We already have Oral Roberts so Central Oklahoma doesn't make any sence. ACU to me is very interesting but i could do without HBU. DBU would be a good pick up by the SLC and so would West Texas AM. I really don't know much about UT-Dallas. Can somebody fill me in?
jdcurran235 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/11/big_east_adds.html Big East extends invites
TexGator Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 We already have Oral Roberts so Central Oklahoma doesn't make any sence. ACU to me is very interesting but i could do without HBU. DBU would be a good pick up by the SLC and so would West Texas AM. I really don't know much about UT-Dallas. Can somebody fill me in? Wow! I hadn't even heard about ORU joining until you mentioned it (and I googled it for myself). That's a good "get" for the conference- and means they can deny any Open Records Request since they now have a private institution. You're right about ORU making UCO redundant for the conference, but I think UCO does add to the conference's profile- as much as HBU, DBU, or UT-D would.
TBonesLU Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 We already have Oral Roberts so Central Oklahoma doesn't make any sence. ACU to me is very interesting but i could do without HBU. DBU would be a good pick up by the SLC and so would West Texas AM. I really don't know much about UT-Dallas. Can somebody fill me in? Wow! I hadn't even heard about ORU joining until you mentioned it (and I googled it for myself). That's a good "get" for the conference- and means they can deny any Open Records Request since they now have a private institution. You're right about ORU making UCO redundant for the conference, but I think UCO does add to the conference's profile- as much as HBU, DBU, or UT-D would. I don't see UT-D jumping two divisions from D-III. HBU makes sense as they are D-I. UT-D isn't moving that much any time soon.
BigRed98 Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 The mega-merger is not a done deal. In fact, C-USA and MWC could well be losing teams to The Big East. This could have implications for Lamar in the long run. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7177969/big-east-invite-six-football-according-report "The Big East Conference will invite Boise State, Navy and Air Force for football only and SMU, Houston and Central Florida for all sports, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press. ... Meanwhile, a conference commissioner source said that there is serious panic within the MWC and C-USA about possibly losing key members of both leagues to the Big East. C-USA could survive losing Houston, SMU and UCF to the Big East since it would be down to nine schools. But if the MWC were to lose Boise State and Air Force, then it would be down to eight members in football (seven in all sports) and would likely pounce on the WAC's Utah State and San Jose State to replace those two schools."
coachacola Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 Tweet from our friend Jack at bobatcatreport: Hearing some really ugly stuff regarding the future of the WAC. I hope none of it comes true. Link: Twitter
puddin tane Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 I have been saying for 2 years...the WAC is dying on the vine if it can, La tech would leave to fill a CUSA void..CUSA might also dive into the SunBelt....which is where Lamar should go, if they decide to go up
Guest Crawfish Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 I have been saying for 2 years...the WAC is dying on the vine if it can, La tech would leave to fill a CUSA void..CUSA might also dive into the SunBelt....which is where Lamar should go, if they decide to go up +1 I have also been saying this. If the WAC loses 2 western teams to the MWC, they are toast as a football conference.
coachacola Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 It's probably in Lamar's best interest if they do want to go FBS that the WAC doesn't go away. If there's one less FBS conference out there then that really cuts down Lamar's chance of going to a FBS conference. If the WAC folds then the Sun Belt would probably pick UTSA and/or Texas State and Lamar would be stuck in the SLC.
Guest CardAmbassador Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 It must be pretty bad as TxSt-SM has talked to multiple conferences already. When asked if TXST-SM is shopping around: @WACJack - @robertwood They've talked to MWC, CUSA, and the Belt from what I was told.
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