jdcurran235 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The point is, I would only go to the WAC if I knew it was going to be a stable conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest McneeseKilla Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The point is, I would only go to the WAC if I knew it was going to be a stable conference. No one is comin callin in the near future. Later down the road maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The point is, I would only go to the WAC if I knew it was going to be a stable conference. No one is comin callin in the near future. Later down the road maybe. I would never say never. No one expected UTA to be invited but look what happened. More than likely The WAC is going to lose at least one or two football members. There are only about 10 schools out there that are capable of moving up and only 2 to 4 that even want to move up. We are one of those schools. The trouble the WAC is going to have is finding enough schools to move up to maintain a stable conference. I feel pretty confident that the WAC is going to at least talk to LU so the conference can figure out its options (I am not saying invite). We where on the short list last year, I don't see why we would not still be on the short list this year (especially with a solid basketball season). There is also no guarantee that LU accepts an invite. I actually see our chances improved this year now that TxSt will be a full voting member and they will want to improve the TSUS. I am not saying whether we will get an invite or not this year. One thing we have figured out is this conf realignment is unpredictable. It is just a wait and see game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Both Lamar and Sam Houston State are looking to go FBS in the future. If that's next year or 10 years from now no one knows, but it has been discussed by the administrations of both schools. This thread started over a year ago when Lamar had a lot of behind-the-scenes discussions with the WAC. It's been no secret that Lamar wants back into the Sun Belt (they should have never left), but with all the wild changes that have occurred since then there's no telling what will happen or even if Lamar still wants to go FBS at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Both Lamar and Sam Houston State are looking to go FBS in the future. If that's next year or 10 years from now no one knows, but it has been discussed by the administrations of both schools. This thread started over a year ago when Lamar had a lot of behind-the-scenes discussions with the WAC. It's been no secret that Lamar wants back into the Sun Belt (they should have never left), but with all the wild changes that have occurred since then there's no telling what will happen or even if Lamar still wants to go FBS at this point. agreed and this is exactly my point said much shorter and sweeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest McneeseKilla Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Both Lamar and Sam Houston State are looking to go FBS in the future. If that's next year or 10 years from now no one knows, but it has been discussed by the administrations of both schools. This thread started over a year ago when Lamar had a lot of behind-the-scenes discussions with the WAC. It's been no secret that Lamar wants back into the Sun Belt (they should have never left), but with all the wild changes that have occurred since then there's no telling what will happen or even if Lamar still wants to go FBS at this point. agreed and this is exactly my point said much shorter and sweeter Not sayin it'll never happen just not seein it in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 From WacBoard "Texas State has informed local media about an upcoming Sunbelt press conference. This was reported at 2:29 today. Still waiting on more information about this though." Hense why I am not going to make predictions this go around. The plan is just to observe and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I've started a new Sun Belt Expansion thread. I think it's time to put this thread to rest since so much has changed since this discussion first started. Link: http://bigredinsider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=11&id=32235&Itemid=169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBonesLU Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 From WacBoard "Texas State has informed local media about an upcoming Sunbelt press conference. This was reported at 2:29 today. Still waiting on more information about this though." Hense why I am not going to make predictions this go around. The plan is just to observe and see what happens. I don't know if I'm the only who just learned this, but did anyone else read the article about Benson becoming the new SBC commissioner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 From WacBoard "Texas State has informed local media about an upcoming Sunbelt press conference. This was reported at 2:29 today. Still waiting on more information about this though." Hense why I am not going to make predictions this go around. The plan is just to observe and see what happens. I don't know if I'm the only who just learned this, but did anyone else read the article about Benson becoming the new SBC commissioner? There had been rumors of it for about a week or two. Evidently the WAC presidents didn't want to offer him a 4-year contract extension so he bolted to the Sun Belt. That's why I started a new Sun Belt thread because I think this changes a lot. Lamar has always preferred the Belt over the WAC so with Benson in the WAC it could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearkat25 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I still think if the WAC was smart they would jump out and invite SHSU and LU at the same time. I think both schools would accept this cause it would give the conference some semblance of stability. This way if the WAC loses a couple of schools the conference can still be at 7. This is probably the only real option for the WAC at this point. I dont think they are getting what they want from CALI and the montana's are a no go. I am not even sure that LU would go unless something like a SHSU and LU deal are done. But I am not sure if the western schools will allow this. In the end the western schools could end up being the demise of the conference. This is all opinion. And I am not even sure if I completely agree with everything I am typing. SHSU is not interested right now. We like where we are and are having too much fun. There is still a buzz around campus about last season and people are so excited about football. I have never seen that on this campus, EVER. I work in the athletic department and can tell you that season ticket sales have reached record levels already before the season has started. We anticipate breaking attendance records. I doubt that our Athletic Director would jeopardize all that just to move up to FBS. I know that you guys would do anything to get in ANY FBS conference (especially jdcurran235) but its best to just sit back and wait. This realignment stuff has a long way to go… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 That is not totally true. I wanted to move up before but now I am a little more cautious. I think we might be better off in the Southland. I just find all the conference realignment stuff interesting. I would like LU to move up but the conditions have to be right, and with the addition of ORU and HBU, I think basketball and baseball just got a lot more exciting. I think SHSU might consider moving up if the conditions are right as well. It just depends on how all this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest McneeseKilla Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I still think if the WAC was smart they would jump out and invite SHSU and LU at the same time. I think both schools would accept this cause it would give the conference some semblance of stability. This way if the WAC loses a couple of schools the conference can still be at 7. This is probably the only real option for the WAC at this point. I dont think they are getting what they want from CALI and the montana's are a no go. I am not even sure that LU would go unless something like a SHSU and LU deal are done. But I am not sure if the western schools will allow this. In the end the western schools could end up being the demise of the conference. This is all opinion. And I am not even sure if I completely agree with everything I am typing. SHSU is not interested right now. We like where we are and are having too much fun. There is still a buzz around campus about last season and people are so excited about football. I have never seen that on this campus, EVER. I work in the athletic department and can tell you that season ticket sales have reached record levels already before the season has started. We anticipate breaking attendance records. I doubt that our Athletic Director would jeopardize all that just to move up to FBS. I know that you guys would do anything to get in ANY FBS conference (especially jdcurran235) but its best to just sit back and wait. This realignment stuff has a long way to go… Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Moving up is both a long and short term money issue. Long term the athletic budget has to be sustained at a substantially higher level than current in order to be competitive and short term several large donations are probably needed to make the facilities FBS Conference affiliated equals. Other posts have mentioned the condition of the track facility, money is on the books for the softball stadium, but upgrades are needed at the Beck and some updating of the Montange is in order. PUS will need a minimum 5k more seats to pretty much assure a 15k average attendance if you can get the area to support the team and only winning will make that happen. If the money is there then LU can and should move up if there is an invitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CardAmbassador Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I still think if the WAC was smart they would jump out and invite SHSU and LU at the same time. I think both schools would accept this cause it would give the conference some semblance of stability. This way if the WAC loses a couple of schools the conference can still be at 7. This is probably the only real option for the WAC at this point. I dont think they are getting what they want from CALI and the montana's are a no go. I am not even sure that LU would go unless something like a SHSU and LU deal are done. But I am not sure if the western schools will allow this. In the end the western schools could end up being the demise of the conference. This is all opinion. And I am not even sure if I completely agree with everything I am typing. SHSU is not interested right now. We like where we are and are having too much fun. There is still a buzz around campus about last season and people are so excited about football. I have never seen that on this campus, EVER. I work in the athletic department and can tell you that season ticket sales have reached record levels already before the season has started. We anticipate breaking attendance records. I doubt that our Athletic Director would jeopardize all that just to move up to FBS. I know that you guys would do anything to get in ANY FBS conference (especially jdcurran235) but its best to just sit back and wait. This realignment stuff has a long way to go… I assume your speaking about individuals and not our AD or President. I think our officials are very skeptical of the FBS option from a money stand point. I think last year we were in a better place financially and we might have been willing to accept a WAC invite, we definitely would have accepted a Sun Belt invite. Now we're probably not that concerned with it unless the opportunity presents itself. I can live with the SLC, but I do see the advantages to moving up. I just don't think the timing is right given the funding landscape. And I agree, I think this thread has run it's course. There are probably better things to talk about anyways. We finally have a men's basketball team in the SLC Tourney! HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1071435-3-plans-to-save-the-western-athletic-conference New expansion article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 http://www.fauowlaccess.com/articles/183/fau-to-remain-in-sun-belt.aspx It appears that the Alliance has already made their decisions for expansion. Any speculations from the cardinal crowd. I pretty well have given up at guessing what is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 http://www.fauowlaccess.com/articles/183/fau-to-remain-in-sun-belt.aspx It appears that the Alliance has already made their decisions for expansion. Any speculations from the cardinal crowd. I pretty well have given up at guessing what is going to happen. I think FIU has been the target of the Alliance, not FAU, so I don't think this anything new or surprising. I think in a few years we'll see Lamar invited to an expanded Sun Belt, maybe as a replacement for UL-Monroe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcurran235 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 http://www.theshorthorn.com/index.php/sports/uta-athletics/29819-uta-ad-mavs-might-not-join-wac If the WAC falls apart does UTA come back to the SLC. Or do they go somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBonesLU Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 http://www.theshorthorn.com/index.php/sports/uta-athletics/29819-uta-ad-mavs-might-not-join-wac If the WAC falls apart does UTA come back to the SLC. Or do they go somewhere else. I don't know what other conference might have them, but I have to say I like where Lamar is right now opposed to UT-A and the others' situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 http://www.theshorthorn.com/index.php/sports/uta-athletics/29819-uta-ad-mavs-might-not-join-wac If the WAC falls apart does UTA come back to the SLC. Or do they go somewhere else. I don't know what other conference might have them, but I have to say I like where Lamar is right now opposed to UT-A and the others' situation. The WAC will probably live on as a non-football conference so there's not much downside for UTA, except extra travel costs. I think Idaho and New Mexico State are the ones with the most to lose, they both suck at football and no FBS conference seems to want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed98 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 This four or five page article mentions Lamar a few times. I found it a good read, even though it is heavily based on one person's speculation/opinion. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1143934-should-the-bcs-powers-and-the-big-east-save-the-western-athletic-conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crawfish Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Texas State & (probably) UTA SBC La Tech & UTSA C-USA Western schools (except Idaho and NMSU) MWC RIP WAC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed98 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The WAC should have nabbed LU and SHSU while theyhad the chance. It would have somewhat increased the perceived stability and given them more teams to fall back on. I don't think anyone can argue that the WAC losing teams to better conferences is completely out of the blue. however, at this point I'm glad Lamar never got that invite. Interesting question to ponder..... If LU had received and taken a WAC invite, would the Sun Belt be looking at taking us in now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchovilla Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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