Cardinalrule Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 This is who we need to hire. Case closed, move on, let's start winning! - http://www.spctexans.com/coach/0/1.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 He definitely has a solid winning percentage. Curious who was he an assistant to at Lamar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUSportsFan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 He definitely has a solid winning percentage. Curious who was he an assistant to at Lamar? Just a guess. Looking at the list, it might be Coach Foster. Foster came to us from Arkansas and left us to go to Houston. Confirmed: He was on Pat Foster's staff. Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUFAN Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Winner and not a retread. I think he could be like harmony.... And he has Texas recruiting capabilities.. I don't want someone who has been fired from a big school. Bring on a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Pride Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think Green should be on the shortlist. He has a great track record at the juco level and I'm sure a strong recruiting network. LU would be an upgrade in pay and he has ties to the glory days at Lamar. If Pat Foster is an important member of the search committee I think Green will be a finalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinalrule Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think Green should be on the shortlist. He has a great track record at the juco level and I'm sure a strong recruiting network. LU would be an upgrade in pay and he has ties to the glory days at Lamar. If Pat Foster is an important member of the search committee I think Green will be a finalist. Based on his record and his accolades it is a no brainer. Unless we can get the NCAA coach of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinalrule Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 I mean, look at this: Coaching Highlights • NJCAA National Champions (2007-08, 2011-12) • NJCAA Coach of the (2007-08, 2011-12) • WJCAC Coach of the Year (1988-89, 1989-90, 2006-07, 2011-12) • Coach of six WJCAC Championship teams Howard (1989-90, 1990-91), SPC (2001-02, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2011-12) • Coach of six Region 5 Championship Teams Howard (1990-91), Midland (1993-94), SPC (2001-02, 2002-03, 2007-08, 2011-12) That is freaking impressive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonaldGymRat Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I remember Green...... He wasn't using the grey highlights in his hair back then though. Come to think of it, neither was I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAZEEK Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 He was one of the four coaches I listed on LU's short list yesterday!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What ever happened to the young coach at LSCPA from a couple years ago? Not necessarily in connection with the LU job, but just wondering how that played out? Why do some JUCO coaches not get a chance at the next level? Why have coaches like Green and Skelton with such good records stayed JUCO? What's missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Two reasons I can think of. One the coach is comfortable where they are, they have the inner drive to win and know what it takes at their level but don't want the added pressure of a D1 program. Second, I think there may be some misconceptions fro the employers at the higher levels that unless you are already coaching at the level you will take to long to figure out what it takes, so the Athletic Departments look for existing coaches or assistants from good programs before taking a chance on someone from a lower level. How many D1 coaches in any sport can you name that moved up from a lower level HC to the next level as a HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUSportsFan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In reference to lower level to higher level, Ronnie Arrow is about the only basketball coach that I can think of off the top of my head. He made the jump from Junior College to Division I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinalrule Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 What ever happened to the young coach at LSCPA from a couple years ago? Not necessarily in connection with the LU job, but just wondering how that played out? Why do some JUCO coaches not get a chance at the next level? Why have coaches like Green and Skelton with such good records stayed JUCO? What's missing? idk I'm wondering the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Matt Cross seems to have landed at Talladega College: http://dailyhome.com/bookmark/18299251-Matt-Cross-returns-as-TC-men-s-basketball-coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAZEEK Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Here is a list of some successful JUCO/D2 coaches jumping to D1: Bob Marlin--Pensacola JC/Sam Houston Brad Underwood--Daytona State/ SFA Danny Kasper--Incarnate Word (D2 at the time)/SFA Mike McConnathy--Bossier Parish CC/NW State This is just a few from my source that have made the transition well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I know in football Jim Tressel did pretty well at Youngstown State before the jump to OSU where he also did pretty well...on the field anyway. Lamar hired Woodard from a JUCO so that shouldn't scare them away in a BB HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 While I wouldn't rule out an assistant from a good program, I would be more inclined to a proven winner from a lower level. I don't know the history of all of the former LU coaches, but I think most were assistants from somewhere and the outcomes have not been very favorable. Maybe some of these assistants should have gone to a JUCO or D2 school to start their HC years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUSportsFan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Here is a list of some successful JUCO/D2 coaches jumping to D1: Bob Marlin--Pensacola JC/Sam Houston Brad Underwood--Daytona State/ SFA Danny Kasper--Incarnate Word (D2 at the time)/SFA Mike McConnathy--Bossier Parish CC/NW State This is just a few from my source that have made the transition well. Thanks for the list. I knew there were more than Arrow. Arrow popped out for me because San Jac basketball was one of the programs I followed at the time. (Never had any affiliation with San Jac...just followed them during Arrow's time.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamar1 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The most successful by far: Nolan Richardson wins NJCAA national championship at Western Texas then wins NIT at Tulsa. (can't remember if the very next year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Also won NCAA at Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Cooper Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Plus everyone has their own "source" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 While I wouldn't rule out an assistant from a good program, I would be more inclined to a proven winner from a lower level. I don't know the history of all of the former LU coaches, but I think most were assistants from somewhere and the outcomes have not been very favorable. Maybe some of these assistants should have gone to a JUCO or D2 school to start their HC years. Former LU coaches: Abatemarco: 1986-1988, 34 - 26, 0.567 (NC State assistant) Billy Tubbs: 2003-2006, 46-43, 0.517 (we know his history) Roccaforte: 2006-2011, 76-78, 0.494 (Memphis, LU assistant) Mike Newell: 1990-1993, 42-44, 0.488 (UALR HC) Grey Giovanine: 1993-1999, 80-85, 0.485 (Wichita State assistant) Mike Deane: 1999-2003, 53-63, 0.457 (Marquette HC) Tony Branch: 1988-1990, 19-37, 0.339 (no coaching experience??) Pat Knight: 2012-2014: 29-62, 0.319 (Texas Tech HC) Pat Foster was an assistant at Arkansas before coming to Lamar. Looks to me that hiring ex-D1 head coaches does not work *(cough*Tic Price*cough). Maybe Lamar should go for a JUCO/D2 coach, they haven't done that in the past and what they've been doing isn't working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAZEEK Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Plus everyone has their own "source" Yep!! Inside and out of LU!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Was bored and found quite a few coaches have gone from small to big and done well Adolph Rupp went from high school to Kentucky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_men%27s_basketball_coaches_with_600_wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 This is who we need to hire. Case closed, move on, let's start winning! - http://www.spctexans.com/coach/0/1.php Jim Boone, Delta St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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