**SLC vs FBS Big Boys Games Thread**

[geezer]

My point was simply that comparison of LU and UTSA in football is not equal because of the difference between FCS and FBS. Also I believe UTSA has more dollars available to spend on sports than LU does. Someone can correct me but I believe their enrolment is significantly higher than LU. I agree with coach that the 4th quarter was what leaves the bad taste.

[NorthoftheBorder]

Geezer/North,

 

What is the problem that we are talking about? I am not quite following. Are we simply talking about the football and basketball teams not winning? Ae we talking wins an losses?

 

Do we just need a new football coach? We have have a new basketball coach. Are you guys ok with the new basketball coach? Are we on the right track in basketball now?

 

If we need to think bigger.. what do you mean? I respect both you guys... just curious as to your thoughts on the Lamar shortcomings and what you think we need to do to get on the right track.

 

For example, can you guys give me 3 things that we can do differently now that will mpact out athletics program in such a way that will enable Lamar to reach the level that you feel we should be at or could be at?

 

Just curious as to your thoughts.

 

My thought on UTSA are: they are 1 year behind (less time playing) and they are already playing a lower tier super confernece team to within 3 pts. What advantages do they have: San Antonio Metro (main reason they have moved up to FBS), larger enrollment and access to Superdome. With all that they could be stinking it up terribly. Why are they successful? They hired a coach who has a history of winning at the top level. Most will say that LU can never do better. Good thing Billy Tubbs didn't believe that in 1976 or he would have never taken the baskeball job. Good thing that Sam Walton didn't believe that he could grow a small mercantile store in Bentonville Arkansas into the dominant retailer in the world with all the "disadvantages" of being in Bentonville (which by the way has now become a metro in itself due to Walmart. I wonder what a growing LU could do for Beaumont, but we only have A&M to look at how that could happen. College Station wasn't much of town in 1970. It is a fast growing and booming town now thanks solely to A&M). Thinking small with no vision ensures no growth or success. Its that way in business, on a personal level and for Universities!! That is my thoughts. Now before you go and say that I am Mr. negative and trying to downgrade my alma mater, I have been very pleasantly pleased with what Dr. Simmons did to revive and grow LU during his tenure and have nothing but respect for him and his accomplishments. I am hopeful that Dr. Evans will continue and take it to another level. I am just a long suffering fan who has felt we have thought small in athletics instead of dreaming big. In any endeavor, if you put together a great plan and the right people to execute the plan, you will find the funding because people want to be a part of a winner. It's that way in business and that way in sports!!

[Card Nation]

My thought on UTSA are: they are 1 year behind (less time playing) and they are already playing a lower tier super confernece team to within 3 pts. What advantages do they have: San Antonio Metro (main reason they have moved up to FBS), larger enrollment and access to Superdome. With all that they could be stinking it up terribly. Why are they successful? They hired a coach who has a history of winning at the top level. Most will say that LU can never do better. Good thing Billy Tubbs didn't believe that in 1976 or he would have never taken the baskeball job. Good thing that Sam Walton didn't believe that he could grow a small mercantile store in Bentonville Arkansas into the dominant retailer in the world with all the "disadvantages" of being in Bentonville (which by the way has now become a metro in itself due to Walmart. I wonder what a growing LU could do for Beaumont, but we only have A&M to look at how that could happen. College Station wasn't much of town in 1970. It is a fast growing and booming town now thanks solely to A&M). Thinking small with no vision ensures no growth or success. Its that way in business, on a personal level and for Universities!! That is my thoughts. Now before you go and say that I am Mr. negative and trying to downgrade my alma mater, I have been very pleasantly pleased with what Dr. Simmons did to revive and grow LU during his tenure and have nothing but respect for him and his accomplishments. I am hopeful that Dr. Evans will continue and take it to another level. I am just a long suffering fan who has felt we have thought small in athletics instead of dreaming big. In any endeavor, if you put together a great plan and the right people to execute the plan, you will find the funding because people want to be a part of a winner. It's that way in business and that way in sports!!

 

 

That makes sense to me. I know that we often are often on different sides of the topic, but I appreciate your candor and thoughtfull response....

[Card Nation]

The Massey Composite ratings has Texas A&M #7, LSU #8 and Baylor #10. Here are the halftime scores of the LU, SHSU and NW State games:

 

SHSU 0

LSU 35

 

NW State 3

Baylor 49

 

LU 3

A&M 31

 

LU has nothing to be embarrassed about for the first half of their game. It's the 4th quarter that made the score look ridiculous.

 

in the second half, I think we should have let the play clock go down each play then hand the ball off. We kept throwing and stopping the clock. We handed the ball off last year at OK St in the second half and alot of folks said we laid down and were upset. This year we keep chunking it and gave up 73. Our guys were simply gassed in the second half.... should have thrown in the towel and run the clock and the score would have been at least 2 or 3 touchdowns less.