Lamar's Identity

[TBonesLU]

NWST had a problem with Henderson the first week as well. I'm not saying these two opponents are at all the same caliber. I'm just saying it happens.

[AggiesAreWe]

I think anyone who dishes out money for season tickets is definitely a Lamar fan, no matter what screen name they use. Lamar isn't in UT's league yet so I don't have a problem with the screen name. Now if it was someone from another SLC school saying stuff about the coaching staff that would be different. Just my 2 cents.

 

AMEN!!

 

As you can see, my username has nothing to do with Lamar. My username is my identity that I have chosen on every messageboard that I am a member of, which numbers about 10. It's one that I have always had, way before BRI was ever even thought of, and one that I will not change for any site. It's just what most folks identify myself with, AggiesAreWe. Nothing against Lamar.

 

I am a season ticket holder (6 seats) for Lamar football, season ticket holder (5 seats, going on 12 years now) for Lamar basketball, send my oldest son to school at Lamar (2nd year), my wife is a graduate of Lamar(was in band 4 years as twirler, head twirler the next to last season of football)she got her masters at Texas A&M, where I also attended, along with attending Lamar (never graduated, and we are members of the Cardinal Club and 12th Man Foundation (used to be season ticket holders of A&M football, dropped it a few years ago). So you can see that I have ties to both schools. I think one can be a fan of both. I do indeed spend money for both (and I bet spend more at Lamar than some on this site);) The username should never be an issue.

 

But, I do understand TBones point.

[TBonesLU]

I think anyone who dishes out money for season tickets is definitely a Lamar fan, no matter what screen name they use. Lamar isn't in UT's league yet so I don't have a problem with the screen name. Now if it was someone from another SLC school saying stuff about the coaching staff that would be different. Just my 2 cents.

 

AMEN!!

 

As you can see, my username has nothing to do with Lamar. My username is my identity that I have chosen on every messageboard that I am a member of, which numbers about 10. It's one that I have always had, way before BRI was ever even thought of, and one that I will not change for any site. It's just what most folks identify myself with, AggiesAreWe. Nothing against Lamar.

 

I am a season ticket holder (6 seats) for Lamar football, season ticket holder (5 seats, going on 12 years now) for Lamar basketball, send my oldest son to school at Lamar (2nd year), my wife is a graduate of Lamar(was in band 4 years as twirler, head twirler the next to last season of football)she got her masters at Texas A&M, where I also attended, along with attending Lamar (never graduated, and we are members of the Cardinal Club and 12th Man Foundation (used to be season ticket holders of A&M football, dropped it a few years ago). So you can see that I have ties to both schools. I think one can be a fan of both. I do indeed spend money for both (and I bet spend more at Lamar than some on this site);) The username should never be an issue.

 

But, I do understand TBones point.

 

Ha ha! Thanks, AAW. I'll say it again. If he'd had "LamarCardmorethananyoneelse" as his S/N, I would still have reacted the way I did.

[theTestament]

It looks like Hookem let it go, I thought you were too, Tbones.

[Guest bigred360]

I will also let it go. But let me say this in closing. I made no “Sneer” comment about the university, nor did I bash the university in any way or try to cause a stir. I am a season ticket holder and a huge Lamar fan that wants nothing more than for them to have all the success in the world. I am just being realistic. I simply made a statement that was not a popular one and because of a user name, as if that means anything, was called out. The coaching is poor; anyone that knows even a little about football can see that. I’ve got a 12 year old son that can point that out. I didn’t feel it was necessary to point out each flaw. Next time don’t read so much into a comment and assume so much.

 

Look bud, it's a Lamar message board... when you come onto a Lamar message board with the name hookem14, you better get ridiculed for your name or cardinal fans aren't Cardinal fans.

 

If you are a cardinal fan why are ya making an account on a Lamar message board that says hookem???????

 

If I went to orangebloods with the name OkieStateLover and started making critical comments about UT's coaches would I get a warm welcome? I bet they would all call me a genius and tell me how right I am correct?

 

Ya, thought so.

 

Great post as I had to laugh a little. However, as this site grows there will be people who attended another univesities but live in SE Texas and want to support the Cardinals. They won't be extremely loyal fan's as they have two or more schools they follow.

 

So the older members of this site are pretty hardcore LU supporters but we have to get use to others visiting and even welcome fan's of other universities to visit and post here on BRI.

 

Just my two cents.

 

I use to post on orangebloods.com but I didn't have a username that mentioned anything UT and quit posting over there because I made a comment of how stupid Greg Davis was for not using Jamaal Charles out of the I formation.

 

There were at least 10 people (UT supporters) who told me how stupid I was for even questioning their OC. Didn't Jamaal Charles almost break Jim Brown record of average for carry in the NFL? His is 6.4 and Charles ended 2010 at 6.38.

 

Is Greg Davis still the OC at UT? LOL

[TBonesLU]

It looks like Hookem let it go, I thought you were too, Tbones.

 

Did I not? I'm not ranting on and on about it. I'm just letting the few people that jumped on know that I wasn't ripping him for having a different screenname. I'm not that pety.

[JJWooten]

NWST had a problem with Henderson the first week as well. I'm not saying these two opponents are at all the same caliber. I'm just saying it happens.

 

 

You're thinking of Delta State, the DII runner up from last year.

 

UCA played Henderson

[TBonesLU]

NWST had a problem with Henderson the first week as well. I'm not saying these two opponents are at all the same caliber. I'm just saying it happens.

 

 

You're thinking of Delta State, the DII runner up from last year.

 

UCA played Henderson

 

Correct. Thanks.

[geezer]

I thought this topic was about Lamar Football Identity. The team, players and coaches together played below everyones expectations last Saturday IMO. I believe they have made progress since the start of last year. The team and coaches need to continue to improve and it is probably too early to worry about an idendity.

[coachacola]

I think anyone who dishes out money for season tickets is definitely a Lamar fan, no matter what screen name they use. Lamar isn't in UT's league yet so I don't have a problem with the screen name. Now if it was someone from another SLC school saying stuff about the coaching staff that would be different. Just my 2 cents.

 

Isn't that what I did? :cheer: :cheer:

 

You don't count! You're from SETX and didn't you actually attend Lamar for a few semesters? Aren't you a fellow PNG alum too?

[Guest bigred360]

I think anyone who dishes out money for season tickets is definitely a Lamar fan, no matter what screen name they use. Lamar isn't in UT's league yet so I don't have a problem with the screen name. Now if it was someone from another SLC school saying stuff about the coaching staff that would be different. Just my 2 cents.

 

Isn't that what I did? :cheer: :cheer:

 

You don't count! You're from SETX and didn't you actually attend Lamar for a few semesters? Aren't you a fellow PNG alum too?

 

JJWooten is from Lumberton.

[JJWooten]

I think anyone who dishes out money for season tickets is definitely a Lamar fan, no matter what screen name they use. Lamar isn't in UT's league yet so I don't have a problem with the screen name. Now if it was someone from another SLC school saying stuff about the coaching staff that would be different. Just my 2 cents.

 

Isn't that what I did? :cheer: :cheer:

 

You don't count! You're from SETX and didn't you actually attend Lamar for a few semesters? Aren't you a fellow PNG alum too?

 

B360 is right, I'm a Lumberton kid. The only time I stepped foot in a Lamar classroom was to take my SATs. Other than that, I had only been there to see my girlfriend (before I convinced her to transfer to Sam). =)

 

I really don't try to cause any ruckus, it's not worth my energy. For the most part, I only really follow SHSU, SFA, and Lamar. And by follow, I mean I devote the majority of my time to SHSU, and check in on the other two from time to time. I can only watch SFA sports every now and then, and I watch/listen to Lamar games when a SHSU isn't going on.

 

Similar to last year, at the beginning of the year, I was a little scared of Lamar, but after listening to the USA game and watching a good chunk of the UIW game, I'm not as worried. I guess the best way to put it is, "I expected more."

[coachacola]

My mistake, not sure why I thought you were a PNG grad.

[West]

JJ, aren't you in Pullman, WA? I thought I saw it listed as your location on the other board, I could be way off though.

[JJWooten]

JJ, aren't you in Pullman, WA? I thought I saw it listed as your location on the other board, I could be way off though.

 

Absolutely right. I'm doing grad school at WSU.

 

I'm honestly a little shocked at how well some of you guys know my information. Was I that caustic over on SETX?

[Guest bigred360]

JJWooten, I believe that information is on your profile on Katfans.com as I've seen it too. B)

[JJWooten]

JJWooten, I believe that information is on your profile on Katfans.com as I've seen it too. B)

 

It is, but the fact you guys remember it is what is most impressive (or scary). :unsure: :unsure:

[Guest boomer]

As for an identity I would say the great staff at Navarro College went a long way towards building that. Poorly coached ? Yep you bet a program with its act together doesn't have three qb's and no starter. We throw for 500 yds a game last year and can't complete a pass this year? Yea I'm a FAN. YEA I'm pissed to. We have local talent turned away that have succeeded at bigger universities. Yet we continue to protect our coaches. We get marquee linemen in on transfer great but can't play the pocket passing QB because he would get killed. Texas College ,first year, we should have had multiple 100 yard rushers. USA is the first team this season we played that was built up as a mirror image of progression,We didn't even belong on the field with them. Luckily I did get a good set of knives though!

 

 

1 DePauldrick Garrett RB

JR-TR Orange, Texas/West Orange-Stark HS/Navarro College

2 Kevin Davis TE

JR-1L Pearland, Texas/Pearland HS/Navarro JC

3 Andre Bevil QB

SR-1L Orange, Texas/West Orange-Stark HS/Navarro JC

4 Daniel Campbell OL

JR-TR Houston, Texas/Aldine HS/Navarro College

5 Ryan Clark DB 73

SR-1L Beaumont, Texas/Ozen HS/Navarro College

6 J.J. Hayes WR 75 ( my personal favorite player)

6-3 210 7

SR-1L Diboll, Texas/Diboll HS/Navarro JC

7 Darby Jackson DE 75

SR-1L Humble, Texas/Humble HS/Navarro JC

8 Marcus Jackson WR 73

SR-1L Tyler, Texas/Lee HS/Navarro JC

9 Stephone Mercer DB 68

JR-TR Austin, Texas/Lyndon B. Johnson HS/Navarro College

10 Josh Powdrill WR 68

SR-1L Beaumont, Texas/West Brook HS/Navarro College

11 Juventino Sanchez K 72

JR-TR Blooming Grove, Texas/Blooming Grove HS/Navarro College

12 Adrian Guillory DB 70

JR-TR Beaumont, Texas/Central HS/Navarro College

 

 

Here is the man who was hired . So did he win with the last coaches talent or are we to expect these kinds of results in three years? I don't think it is a lot to ask, do you?

From 2005-2007 Woodard spent his time coaching at Navarro Junior College.

 

Navarro ranked third nationally in total offense (444.6 yards per game), fourth in rushing offense (250.5 ypg) and 16th in passing offense (194.2 ypg), while scoring a school-record 428 points for an average of 35.7 per game in 2007.[2]

 

Todd Whitten

Offensive Coordinator

Whitten knows the Southland Conference well, having spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Sam Houston State. Whitten compiled a 25-28 record at Sam Houston State with his best seasons being 2006 and 2007, when the Bearkats had runner-up finishes in the Southland Conference with 6-5 and 7-4 records, respectively.

SHSU a school know for airing it out big time. A school who has put several QB's in the pros and we can't pick the best of three and just go with it for the sake of stability?Roger Hinshaw

Defensive Coordinator

 

So back to our Identity I have no Idea but I will tell you this we better get one fast. The fact that we appear to be heading backwards will kill this program before it even has a chance to grow. There is a problem when your competing against such incredible High School talent like we have in this area. Nobody loves Cinderella or scrappy teams. They love winners. The boosters want to be with winners. PNG had an easier time getting their stadium revamped than Lamar. why? WINNERS. Nederland has the equiptment and sells out every game,WINNERS. Port Arthur football attendance up 30% why they are starting to build a WINNING program.

 

This is where we need to be headed ,but I just don't feel it. Do you? I ask you do you honestly feel that we are any better off this year than we were last? The people most excited about our team this year right now are SHSU, SFA and worst of all McNeese. So what do we as true fans do? Vent , Hope, and Pray that in the next week or so the staff figures a way to get done what they couldn't do in the last eight months.

[AggiesAreWe]

Curious boomer, what local talent you referring to that got turned away by Lamar and has gone on to "succeed" at bigger universities?

[Guest boomer]

Their are several post that we argued all spring. Not to mention your background you should know how much local talent slips away.I promised in the last post that I would drop the issue.

[TBonesLU]

As for an identity I would say the great staff at Navarro College went a long way towards building that. Poorly coached ? Yep you bet a program with its act together doesn't have three qb's and no starter. We throw for 500 yds a game last year and can't complete a pass this year? Yea I'm a FAN. YEA I'm pissed to. We have local talent turned away that have succeeded at bigger universities. Yet we continue to protect our coaches. We get marquee linemen in on transfer great but can't play the pocket passing QB because he would get killed. Texas College ,first year, we should have had multiple 100 yard rushers. USA is the first team this season we played that was built up as a mirror image of progression,We didn't even belong on the field with them. Luckily I did get a good set of knives though!

 

 

1 DePauldrick Garrett RB

JR-TR Orange, Texas/West Orange-Stark HS/Navarro College

2 Kevin Davis TE

JR-1L Pearland, Texas/Pearland HS/Navarro JC

3 Andre Bevil QB

SR-1L Orange, Texas/West Orange-Stark HS/Navarro JC

4 Daniel Campbell OL

JR-TR Houston, Texas/Aldine HS/Navarro College

5 Ryan Clark DB 73

SR-1L Beaumont, Texas/Ozen HS/Navarro College

6 J.J. Hayes WR 75 ( my personal favorite player)

6-3 210 7

SR-1L Diboll, Texas/Diboll HS/Navarro JC

7 Darby Jackson DE 75

SR-1L Humble, Texas/Humble HS/Navarro JC

8 Marcus Jackson WR 73

SR-1L Tyler, Texas/Lee HS/Navarro JC

9 Stephone Mercer DB 68

JR-TR Austin, Texas/Lyndon B. Johnson HS/Navarro College

10 Josh Powdrill WR 68

SR-1L Beaumont, Texas/West Brook HS/Navarro College

11 Juventino Sanchez K 72

JR-TR Blooming Grove, Texas/Blooming Grove HS/Navarro College

12 Adrian Guillory DB 70

JR-TR Beaumont, Texas/Central HS/Navarro College

 

 

Here is the man who was hired . So did he win with the last coaches talent or are we to expect these kinds of results in three years? I don't think it is a lot to ask, do you?

From 2005-2007 Woodard spent his time coaching at Navarro Junior College.

 

Navarro ranked third nationally in total offense (444.6 yards per game), fourth in rushing offense (250.5 ypg) and 16th in passing offense (194.2 ypg), while scoring a school-record 428 points for an average of 35.7 per game in 2007.[2]

 

Todd Whitten

Offensive Coordinator

Whitten knows the Southland Conference well, having spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Sam Houston State. Whitten compiled a 25-28 record at Sam Houston State with his best seasons being 2006 and 2007, when the Bearkats had runner-up finishes in the Southland Conference with 6-5 and 7-4 records, respectively.

SHSU a school know for airing it out big time. A school who has put several QB's in the pros and we can't pick the best of three and just go with it for the sake of stability?Roger Hinshaw

Defensive Coordinator

 

So back to our Identity I have no Idea but I will tell you this we better get one fast. The fact that we appear to be heading backwards will kill this program before it even has a chance to grow. There is a problem when your competing against such incredible High School talent like we have in this area. Nobody loves Cinderella or scrappy teams. They love winners. The boosters want to be with winners. PNG had an easier time getting their stadium revamped than Lamar. why? WINNERS. Nederland has the equiptment and sells out every game,WINNERS. Port Arthur football attendance up 30% why they are starting to build a WINNING program.

 

This is where we need to be headed ,but I just don't feel it. Do you? I ask you do you honestly feel that we are any better off this year than we were last? The people most excited about our team this year right now are SHSU, SFA and worst of all McNeese. So what do we as true fans do? Vent , Hope, and Pray that in the next week or so the staff figures a way to get done what they couldn't do in the last eight months.

 

While I understand some of your argument, selling out a 2,000-seat stadium is a bad comparison to a 16,000-seat stadium. Plus, I hate to say it, but Lamar's goal is not to put fans in the stands. It is to win. It's the same reason the Texans didn't take Vince Young in the draft 5-6 years ago. While Young would have put people in the seats because he is from Houston, it would not have done anything for them as they couldn't have done anything with any quarterback. Carr wasn't the problem; everything else was. Lamar needs to continue to increase publicity and win games (as they are now).

 

Let's not forget this is a brand-new program. South Alabama's success doesn't happen every time a start-up program gets going. To be honest, they are a freak of nature team.

 

While I've said what I have, boomer, I agree with you on a lot of points. We need to step it up, the QB battle is a bit annoying, and we need to become more disciplined.

[TBonesLU]

JJ, aren't you in Pullman, WA? I thought I saw it listed as your location on the other board, I could be way off though.

 

Absolutely right. I'm doing grad school at WSU.

 

I'm honestly a little shocked at how well some of you guys know my information. Was I that caustic over on SETX?

 

We all have our moments. B)

[Guest CardAmbassador]

As for an identity I would say the great staff at Navarro College went a long way towards building that. Poorly coached ? Yep you bet a program with its act together doesn't have three qb's and no starter. We throw for 500 yds a game last year and can't complete a pass this year? Yea I'm a FAN. YEA I'm pissed to. We have local talent turned away that have succeeded at bigger universities. Yet we continue to protect our coaches. We get marquee linemen in on transfer great but can't play the pocket passing QB because he would get killed. Texas College ,first year, we should have had multiple 100 yard rushers. USA is the first team this season we played that was built up as a mirror image of progression,We didn't even belong on the field with them. Luckily I did get a good set of knives though!

 

 

1 DePauldrick Garrett RB

JR-TR Orange, Texas/West Orange-Stark HS/Navarro College

2 Kevin Davis TE

JR-1L Pearland, Texas/Pearland HS/Navarro JC

3 Andre Bevil QB

SR-1L Orange, Texas/West Orange-Stark HS/Navarro JC

4 Daniel Campbell OL

JR-TR Houston, Texas/Aldine HS/Navarro College

5 Ryan Clark DB 73

SR-1L Beaumont, Texas/Ozen HS/Navarro College

6 J.J. Hayes WR 75 ( my personal favorite player)

6-3 210 7

SR-1L Diboll, Texas/Diboll HS/Navarro JC

7 Darby Jackson DE 75

SR-1L Humble, Texas/Humble HS/Navarro JC

8 Marcus Jackson WR 73

SR-1L Tyler, Texas/Lee HS/Navarro JC

9 Stephone Mercer DB 68

JR-TR Austin, Texas/Lyndon B. Johnson HS/Navarro College

10 Josh Powdrill WR 68

SR-1L Beaumont, Texas/West Brook HS/Navarro College

11 Juventino Sanchez K 72

JR-TR Blooming Grove, Texas/Blooming Grove HS/Navarro College

12 Adrian Guillory DB 70

JR-TR Beaumont, Texas/Central HS/Navarro College

 

 

Here is the man who was hired . So did he win with the last coaches talent or are we to expect these kinds of results in three years? I don't think it is a lot to ask, do you?

From 2005-2007 Woodard spent his time coaching at Navarro Junior College.

 

Navarro ranked third nationally in total offense (444.6 yards per game), fourth in rushing offense (250.5 ypg) and 16th in passing offense (194.2 ypg), while scoring a school-record 428 points for an average of 35.7 per game in 2007.[2]

 

Todd Whitten

Offensive Coordinator

Whitten knows the Southland Conference well, having spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Sam Houston State. Whitten compiled a 25-28 record at Sam Houston State with his best seasons being 2006 and 2007, when the Bearkats had runner-up finishes in the Southland Conference with 6-5 and 7-4 records, respectively.

SHSU a school know for airing it out big time. A school who has put several QB's in the pros and we can't pick the best of three and just go with it for the sake of stability?Roger Hinshaw

Defensive Coordinator

 

So back to our Identity I have no Idea but I will tell you this we better get one fast. The fact that we appear to be heading backwards will kill this program before it even has a chance to grow. There is a problem when your competing against such incredible High School talent like we have in this area. Nobody loves Cinderella or scrappy teams. They love winners. The boosters want to be with winners. PNG had an easier time getting their stadium revamped than Lamar. why? WINNERS. Nederland has the equiptment and sells out every game,WINNERS. Port Arthur football attendance up 30% why they are starting to build a WINNING program.

 

This is where we need to be headed ,but I just don't feel it. Do you? I ask you do you honestly feel that we are any better off this year than we were last? The people most excited about our team this year right now are SHSU, SFA and worst of all McNeese. So what do we as true fans do? Vent , Hope, and Pray that in the next week or so the staff figures a way to get done what they couldn't do in the last eight months.

 

I know things are bad right now but I must ask you what team you are watching if you really think we are overall worse than last year because it's no contest we definitely OVERALL are improved. Now that doesn't mean I don't think the defense is moving backwards, after the IWU, but other than that game they have honestly looked improved. That doesn't mean they're anywhere close to resembling a good defense but last year was not as pretty as you may remember it. Basically I'm saying we went from pretty bad to below average.

 

What do you mean we can't complete a pass? The first game was a monsoon, I was there in the stands myself. USA we had several dropped passes so on that one game you might have had a point, but it looks like we completed greater than %60 of our passes against IWU that's much better than we did last year so I don't follow you on your complaint on our passing game, that seems to be fine.

 

What's your problem with the QB's? Bevil has 1 pick in 3 games. Doug Prewitt had 2 picks in 3 games last year. I'm starting to be convinced that Bevil was the right choice for this team at the moment. The QB position is not the problem on this team, it's definitely the secondary if I had to rate one portion of our team as the lowest.

 

So I'll just say I completely agree that this team is not performing to my expectations, but most of that is on the secondary because honestly I think I'm expecting too much from an O line that was brought together pretty quickly towards the middle of August. The haven't allowed a sack, remember how many sacks we had last year? (hint, more than zero in every game)

 

There is no doubt in my mind that LU would have lost to IWU at any point last year other than maybe the opening game. So in that respect we have improved.

 

Yes the picture is bleak but I don't think it's as bleak as your painting it.

 

The boosters want to be with winners. PNG had an easier time getting their stadium revamped than Lamar. why?

 

Really how so?

 

And if you think the program is going to get killed. I must also ask you what you're smoking? The football program is going to be canceled because it's got a 7-7 record in it's second year of play and we are near capacity crowds for every game? I don't have a problem with the complaints its just this comparison to HS when they aren't even the same level.

 

And for the last time let the Doty thing go.

[theTestament]

[quote name="TBonesLU" post=22526

While I understand some of your argument, selling out a 2,000-seat stadium is a bad comparison to a 16,000-seat stadium. Plus, I hate to say it, but Lamar's goal is not to put fans in the stands. It is to win. It's the same reason the Texans didn't take Vince Young in the draft 5-6 years ago. While Young would have put people in the seats because he is from Houston, it would not have done anything for them as they couldn't have done anything with any quarterback. Carr wasn't the problem; everything else was. Lamar needs to continue to increase publicity and win games (as they are now).

 

Let's not forget this is a brand-new program. South Alabama's success doesn't happen every time a start-up program gets going. To be honest, they are a freak of nature team.

 

While I've said what I have, boomer, I agree with you on a lot of points. We need to step it up, the QB battle is a bit annoying, and we need to become more disciplined.

 

Try 13000. This is PNG not Bridge City.

[Guest boomer]

I like that you agree with me. Makes me feel good inside,I swear. See UT and a LU transplant can get along. Now the local stadiums are a little bigger than you give them credit for.

 

Port Neches-Groves Indian Stadium

DETAILS

Total seating • capacity: 13,000

• Playing Surface: FieldTurf

• All-time attendance record: 16,000

• Two-tier, state-of-the-art pressbox

• 20,000 square foot field house

• Special features: 27'x17' high definition video board

 

NEDERLAND: capacity: 11,000

PORT ARTHUR: capacity: 8500

 

And NO I am not from MID-COUNTY and the stadiums are listed as I found them on the web. So update your web site Nederland if you want it to look better. You should be able to hire a firm with what you charge me in taxes.