coachacola Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Id rather go winless than give a fricking coach a million bucks My sources ( a penny landing on tails and an odd roll with the dice) say hes staying if hes still coach at 5 pm today. this no apostrophe shite is killing me I agree with you. And to be honest I do not think it really matters that much anyway. No matter who LU has picked in the past 30 years the result has been basically the same. The glory years are long gone and are not coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I am not sure money spent on the coach matters that much. Claunch at Nicholls was making $95k this year and Price was about twice that. SFA is paying their coach about $350k and Sam is paying Hooten about $250k. Not sure what ACU is paying their coach since they are a private school and do not have to release salaries of employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Being a state school Lamar will have to post the job opening for a minimum of 30 days. Does not mean you can have a verbal agreement with all parties involved. Also I believe Tic is under contract for 2 more weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 If Lamar must post the job for for thirty days, then the logical thing to do now if you do not plan to keep him is to announce his contract will not be renewed and post the opening. That would get you two weeks closer to selecting the next coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarfan360 Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 If Lamar must post the job for for thirty days, then the logical thing to do now if you do not plan to keep him is to announce his contract will not be renewed and post the opening. That would get you two weeks closer to selecting the next coach. It is almost 5pm on Wednesday and Lamar still has not announced whether they are going to renew Coach Price or not. I think by not saying anything it is likely they are going to keep him for a couple of years. That is the only reason in my mind we have not heard anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I think the logic for keeping Price would be that because of Covid they got off to a bad start, partially due to them having young players and not getting enough practice time. Throw in the big wins at the end of the season and they see the potential of this team. Another factor is that some big donors stepped up to pay for the exit fee from the SLC. Maybe the money is not there to pay for a high quality coach. An alternative theory is that Price has already agreed to step down or retire and Born is working behind the scenes in getting a new coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 For me the question is do you believe Price can improve the performance and ranking of the team? I believe he has gotten as far as he is capable of advancing Lamar. I base this on his time at Lamar and his previous stats at McNeese. Middle of the pack is the best he has delivered. I do not expect elite eight or final four, but needing a great end of the year to make the conference tournament does not make it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 To emphasize how poor the SLC Basketball is, Nicholls State, regular season champs did not get an invite to any post-season tournament. But Stetson, with a losing record, did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarfan360 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) To emphasize how poor the SLC Basketball is, Nicholls State, regular season champs did not get an invite to any post-season tournament. But Stetson, with a losing record, did. The NIT only took 16 teams into their tournament instead of 32 teams. But, I agree the SLC is a low-major conference and I just hope Lamar improves enough to be competitive in the WAC. We have 5 of our top 7 players returning. I believe there will be a couple of scholarships that become available due to players transferring. Lamar needs another post and a guard. The wing from Lumberton, Brock McClure is a scorer at the HS level but it may take some time to adjust to the speed of DI competition. Edited March 18, 2021 by lamarfan360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I hear Jordyn Adams,formerly of Silsbee,is seriously considering playing at Lamar with his friend,our point guard,Harrison who really likes Price.He really excelled in his conference and would be a great addition.By the way,Tic Price has another year on his contract so there is that buyout expense.If he gets Adams that will ad excitement and give a true closer to Tic or the next coach.He and Harrison would make a dynamic back court.Javing Adams could also help us with other strong Silsbee guards in 3 years.The Beaumont Central forward has been heavily recruited by Price and with Harrison here we have a decent chance with him.The D1 talent in the area if continued to be kept home could really boost us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarfan360 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 I hear Jordyn Adams,formerly of Silsbee,is seriously considering playing at Lamar with his friend,our point guard,Harrison who really likes Price.He really excelled in his conference and would be a great addition.By the way,Tic Price has another year on his contract so there is that buyout expense.If he gets Adams that will ad excitement and give a true closer to Tic or the next coach.He and Harrison would make a dynamic back court.Javing Adams could also help us with other strong Silsbee guards in 3 years.The Beaumont Central forward has been heavily recruited by Price and with Harrison here we have a decent chance with him.The D1 talent in the area if continued to be kept home could really boost us. Yeah, that would be great if Lamar could land Jordyn Adams. He had a great season as a freshman at Austin Peay. Do you have a name for the young man at Beaumont West Brook or Beaumont United? There isn't a Central anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 My bad,CoachDavid Green,who played at Silsbee,and his state champion Beaumont United team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) I thought Price's contract was up this year. If it is next year I would expect him back as Cardinal athletics must absorb the SLC exit fee and money is tight because of all the covid testing. I guess we will just wait and see. One thing I feel fairly confident about is the talent we played with this year will not compete for the top of the WAC. Lamar does not have near enough size in the post, although Muoka made a lot of improvement. There is no back up, he does not have the weight that the competitions post players have and he gets in foul trouble too often. Also need a six seven or eight forward that can score. Edited March 18, 2021 by geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Somebodys gotta help me out on this WAC is soooo good crap. as near as I can tell, the wac and the SLC were 3-3 against each other. For the most part, their out of conference games are nothing special. They had one team with more than 13 wins. Ive never heard of half these schools (and yes, I follow college sports). Hell, their champion Grand Canyon, Before I looked em up I thought was an online school. They trade on nasdaq! Im not saying the slc is a power by any means, just dont see what is so special about the wac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Somebodys gotta help me out on this WAC is soooo good crap. as near as I can tell, the wac and the SLC were 3-3 against each other. For the most part, their out of conference games are nothing special. They had one team with more than 13 wins. Ive never heard of half these schools (and yes, I follow college sports). Hell, their champion Grand Canyon, Before I looked em up I thought was an online school. They trade on nasdaq! Im not saying the slc is a power by any means, just dont see what is so special about the wac The only thing I have seen that compared the 2 conferences was their RPI, which had the WAC at 15 of 32 D1 Conferences and the SLC at 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 The higher RPI,or since 2018 NCAA NET,that is used to rate teams and conferences is also used by conferences to restrict allowable guarantee games based on these ratings and negotiate better media packages like tv and radio.Simply stated our teams will qualify for more and better guarantee games in football and basketball in the WAC.Also,athletic budgets are more aligned.The Louisiana schools athletic budgets were less than Sam,Stephen F. and Lamar.Finally,finances at all universities are tight because of many things not readily visible.For example,dorm occupancy at many universities has been greatly reduced to the extent the revenue does not come close to servicing the loans on the buildings at some schools.Guarantee game revenue was greatly reduced due to less fans at games of larger schools.These are just a few of the many financial challenges university leaders and coaches are currently dealing with that require campus wide adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarfan360 Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) I agree with you. And to be honest I do not think it really matters that much anyway. No matter who LU has picked in the past 30 years the result has been basically the same. The glory years are long gone and are not coming back. You need talented players to win games. Look at UNT for example. They just won their first NCAA Tournament game in the history of their school. So if Lamar could land a player like Jordyn Adams and a good forward to go along with Harrison, Muoka and the rest of the team; you would be surprised at how good it would make Coach Price look having that type of talent. https://letsgopeay.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jordyn-adams/9194 Lamar had Clarence Kea (played in the NBA),B.B. Davis (Drafted), Alvin Brooks (drafted) and Mike Olliver (drafted) on the team that went to the Sweet-Sixteen. Edit: I was wrong, Clarence Kea was on the team that lost to Michigan State. Edited March 20, 2021 by lamarfan360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckEm Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 You need talented players to win games. Look at UNT for example. They just won their first NCAA Tournament game in the history of their school. So if Lamar could land a player like Jordyn Adams and a good forward to go along with Harrison, Muoka and the rest of the team; you would be surprised at how good it would make Coach Price look having that type of talent. https://letsgopeay.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jordyn-adams/9194 Lamar had Clarence Kea (played in the NBA),B.B. Davis (Drafted), Alvin Brooks (drafted) and Mike Olliver (drafted) on the team that went to the Sweet-Sixteen. Edit: I was wrong, Clarence Kea was on the team that lost to Michigan State. True.....but, isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 As of a 4 p.m. release Coach Tic Price is no longer the basketball coach of the Lamar Cardinals.He is a good man and was good for the players he coached and the community.I wish him well.His best years at Lamar were the 3 seasons between 2016 and 2019 when the cards won 19,19,and 20 games and went 10-8,11-7 and 12-6 in conference finishing in 2019 tied for 3rd.The 2019-2020 season was 17-15 overall and 10-10 conference finishing 6th.This year we were the 6 th seed in the tournament in an odd Covid year for all.Tic was left with many academic character and athletic issues to rehabilitate thanks to Pat Knight.I am grateful for his work in helping Lamar and its student athletes get to a better place academically and overall than he found it.I wish Lamar and its student athletes well in its search for a new coach.For those that point to his McNeese record you may not be aware McNeese was much slower to recover from Rita than Lamar. Tic had to find high school gyms to practice in for a year,the library was renovated the next 4 years and much more.The new AD Tommy McClelland,Marco Borne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 The apostrophe gremlin never sleeps.Tommy was Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) This will be the defining move in the Marco Born Athletic Director tenure. Marco needs to get this one right. My opinion of Price is that he is a fine gentleman, but lacks something needed to get Lamar to the next level of success. Edited March 21, 2021 by geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Tommy was Marcos boss at Louisiana Tech.He let Tic go at McNeese and has supported Tic more recently saying that he did not fully grasp the long term effects Rita had on McNeese athletics when he was newly hired.Louisiana was much slower and less responsive To McNeese In rebuilding than what happened here at Lamar after Rita.Today it is even worse in Lake Charles.I want to thank Tic,his coaches,athletes,Marco and other administrators for their quick responses to help McNeese and the community desperately in need of provisions.Their giving of time,talent and treasure will be forever appreciated.I also want to thank Tic and his wife Jamie for their work in helping with reading programs for BISD elementary age children in need. It has been special working with you and your colleagues.My prayers are with all as we go forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I think the decision was the right one. But as Geezer said, his replacement will be a huge hire. We need to have a competitive program and able to butts in the seats - hopefully these are not mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarfan360 Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 Price not Retained as Cardinals Head Coach https://lamarcardinals.com/news/2021/3/21/mens-basketball-price-not-retained-as-cardinals-head-coach.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 This will be the defining move in the Marco Born Athletic Director tenure. Marco needs to get this one right. My opinion of Price is that he is a fine gentleman, but lacks something needed to get Lamar to the next level of success. I think when it comes to football and basketball, Marco is just a name to put on big money boosters pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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