LU to Sunbelt??

[nickels]

They will have 10 fans watching their team get blown out by 80, GREAT IDEA.

 

This is how the program was lost last time and you BRI guys want repeat it, unbelievable.

[coachacola]

They will have 10 fans watching their team get blown out by 80, GREAT IDEA.

 

This is how the program was lost last time and you BRI guys want repeat it, unbelievable.

 

You don't have a clue why the program was dropped in the 80s.

[BigNasty92]

And yall get 10 fans watch yall make a run at a national championship. What does that say about your fans and program? Oh...i know. It says NO ONE GIVES A RAT F**K about your program.

 

Sad fact. LU will be FBS before SHSU will. You can take that to the bank.

[nickels]

And yall get 10 fans watch yall make a run at a national championship. What does that say about your fans and program? Oh...i know. It says NO ONE GIVES A RAT F**K about your program.

 

Sad fact. LU will be FBS before SHSU will. You can take that to the bank.

Atleast we don't triple our attendance numbers to try and impress FBS conferences who have no interest in us.

 

Sad fact is, you think making it into the FBS is the end all be all and after a year of two of taking lumps LU would be competitive and respected. (3 years in the SLC and not even a notable football win) LU has had 5 years to make a somewhat competitive FCS program and has made no progress. NONE. Your star players are even jumping ship.

 

Like I've stated many times, I don't want SAM in the FBS right now, we need to have a few years staying atop of the FCS and building on all of our other athletic programs before we our ready for that. I would actually enjoy seeing LU in the FBS. They would likely go 1 or 0fer every year that RayRay is the coach and hes not going anywhere.

[BigNasty92]

But you continue to avoid the fact that no one cares about your team...EVEN IN THE BEST OF TIMES. We will get better with time. We will start packing them in..again. We will be FBS.

 

..and y'all will still be 'just Sam'. As usual.

[Guest Cardinalrule]

I just don't get why we even want to move to FBS right now? Yes I understand the athletic money is better but we are pretty much just setting our teams back another 5 years IMO.

 

Someone put it this way earlier, "if you're already getting blown out now, why not move up and get blown out there," same result, but more money from guarantee games.

 

I agree 100% with that. We can get more money by playing the bigger schools. And we are getting embarrassed already...especially by Sam and SFA. Why not get embarrassed by ATM and UT and Tx Tech outside of conference and by all of the Sun Belt teams in conference instead? Either that or we move down to Division II. If we were winning and selling out the stadium I may feel differently.

[Guest Cardinalrule]

They will have 10 fans watching their team get blown out by 80, GREAT IDEA.

 

This is how the program was lost last time and you BRI guys want repeat it, unbelievable.

 

Aren't you the dipshit that said our basketball games draw 400 people? I think you need to shut the hell up until you have a slight clue what you are talking about.

[LUSportsFan]

I just don't get why we even want to move to FBS right now? Yes I understand the athletic money is better but we are pretty much just setting our teams back another 5 years IMO.

 

Someone put it this way earlier, "if you're already getting blown out now, why not move up and get blown out there," same result, but more money from guarantee games.

 

I agree 100% with that. We can get more money by playing the bigger schools. And we are getting embarrassed already...especially by Sam and SFA. Why not get embarrassed by ATM and UT and Tx Tech outside of conference and by all of the Sun Belt teams in conference instead? Either that or we move down to Division II. If we were winning and selling out the stadium I may feel differently.

 

Excellent point. For comparison purposes, here's a link to an article about the University of Idaho. They are an FBS program with an athletics budget a little higher than ours. I think our guarantees as an FCS team playing a AQ BCS team are around $300,000 to $350,000 compared to $800,000 - $950,000 for Idaho. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/sep/08/idaho-vandals-its-about-dollars-and-sense/

 

Saw another article where Arkansas State is getting $1,000,000.00 to play Nebraska. Of course, we're not anywhere close to Arkansas State currently, but I doubt even the FCS National Champion could dream of getting a guarantee like that. Arkansas State's budget was almost the same as ours per the USAToday link http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-05-14/ncaa-college-athletics-finances-database/54955804/1

[Redrain07]

I'd take a cool million to beat Nebraska lol. ASU isn't bad..

[Guest smith]

 

 

Saw another article where Arkansas State is getting $1,000,000.00 to play Nebraska. Of course, we're not anywhere close to Arkansas State currently, but I doubt even the FCS National Champion could dream of getting a guarantee like that. Arkansas State's budget was almost the same as ours per the USAToday link http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-05-14/ncaa-college-athletics-finances-database/54955804/1

 

This is what I've always hated about the direction LU took back in Dec 89. Both LU and Arkansas State were Div I-AA Independent then. I kept my program guide from when we beat them in Jonesboro my Fresh year of '88. They had a stated objective in the program guide to go Div I-A. Meanwhile we all know what happened at LU.... Anyway, the rebirth has the potential to be bigger and better than who knows what might have otherwise been. Vision, Direction, and Leadership A-State made it happen.

 

(edit: hmm the attached copy of the '88 article doesn't seem to work)

[Birdseye]

And yall get 10 fans watch yall make a run at a national championship. What does that say about your fans and program? Oh...i know. It says NO ONE GIVES A RAT F**K about your program.

 

Sad fact. LU will be FBS before SHSU will. You can take that to the bank.

Atleast we don't triple our attendance numbers to try and impress FBS conferences who have no interest in us.

 

Just so you know attendance numbers are based on PAID attendance. So when you have a large number season ticket of season ticket holders and they choose not to go to the game it still counts as attendance.

 

For Slam's sake you better hope Lamar stays in the Southland. Because if Lamar leaves we will quit cutting into Mc Neese's recruiting and they will be back to the top of Southland, and you will never see your program improve.

[nickels]

So the reason Sam is successful now is because Lamar is taking McNeese's recruits? Is this really what you are saying? Like seriously? For Reals?

 

BAAHAHBAHBAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Name me one recruit of LUs that would have made significantly McNeese better the last 3 years? One. Your recruits obviously aren't any good. Our 2nd & 3rd string were blowing out your starters, so what makes you think adding a couple to a team we beat by 31 is going to make any difference?

 

Most delusional DI fans in Texas, no doubt.

[cougar king]

So the reason Sam is successful now is because Lamar is taking McNeese's recruits? Is this really what you are saying? Like seriously? For Reals?

 

BAAHAHBAHBAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Name me one recruit of LUs that would have made significantly McNeese better the last 3 years? One. Your recruits obviously aren't any good. Our 2nd & 3rd string were blowing out your starters, so what makes you think adding a couple to a team we beat by 31 is going to make any difference?

 

Most delusional DI fans in Texas, no doubt.

 

This. The Sun Belt higher-ups do not want Lamar, the Sun belt fans don't want Lamar. LU will be in the Southland for a long time unless the WAC tries to make a comeback and even then, that's a stretch.

[Birdseye]

So the reason Sam is successful now is because Lamar is taking McNeese's recruits? Is this really what you are saying? Like seriously? For Reals?

 

BAAHAHBAHBAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Name me one recruit of LUs that would have made significantly McNeese better the last 3 years? One. Your recruits obviously aren't any good. Our 2nd & 3rd string were blowing out your starters, so what makes you think adding a couple to a team we beat by 31 is going to make any difference?

 

Most delusional DI fans in Texas, no doubt.

You say that Lamar has had 5 years to build a program so lets start from there. From 2008 to now Mc Neese has won the Southland once in 2009. Since then they have slid further and further down the standings. From 2001 to 2007 Mc Neese won FIVE Southland championships. What changed? Lamar started getting recruits from the SETX area. Kids that want to play D1 football in front of their families. Depth is VERY important in football. That is the reason that expansion or start-up programs struggle. If you think that Lamar had no impact on McNeese's recruiting then you are the one that is delusional!

[nickels]

More delusional b.s. and you still havnt named me any players from Lamar that would have significantly improved McNeese over the last 3 years. Name me some recruits that chose Lamar over McNeese. Sam has beaten Lamar 160-17 over the last 3 years with 2nd stringers finishing the last half of those games. If any of these players were going to improve McNeese enough to beat us, why didn't they do anything when they played us? Lamar takes the SETX players that cant go D1 anywhere else.

 

If your to much of an idiot to see what changed over the last 3 years for Sam Houston, you dont have the slightest bit of knowledge about this conference and don't deserve my time. (Coach Fritz is what changed, dumbass)

 

 

[cougar king]

More delusional b.s. and you still havnt named me any players from Lamar that would have significantly improved McNeese over the last 3 years. Name me some recruits that chose Lamar over McNeese. Sam has beaten Lamar 160-17 over the last 3 years with 2nd stringers finishing the last half of those games. If any of these players were going to improve McNeese enough to beat us, why didn't they do anything when they played us? Lamar takes the SETX players that cant go D1 anywhere else.

 

If your to much of an idiot to see what changed over the last 3 years for Sam Houston, you dont have the slightest bit of knowledge about this conference and don't deserve my time. (Coach Fritz is what changed, dumbass)

 

You speak too much truth for these folks.

[Redrain07]

Fritz is a good coach and hired a great staff at Sam there's no doubt about that. I don't understand what the Lamar administration is trying to prove by extending our coach but hey what can you do? I've seen zero improvement over the past three years but one day they will pull their head out of their butts and realize we need to make a change and just like Fritz did a Sam said coach will do the same here. It's not delusion, College athletics is cyclical and one day Sam will be bottom feeding again because even Fritz has a price.

[Birdseye]

More delusional b.s c

. (Coach Fritz is what changed, dumbass)

Proverbs 29.9

If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

 

I think that applies to you perfectly nickel.

 

Which one is it nickel? You want me to tell you the players that could have made a difference but you say coaching is what made the difference at Slam. I don't care how good of a coach you are you can't turn a jackass into a thoroughbred. Slam had eight players on the all conference first team last year. That is a sign of good talent not good coaching. Good coaching is when you have no one on the first team and win the conference. But that NEVER happens because it takes talent. And if you lack the intelligence to see or admit it Lamar is taking away players from Mc Neese. Mc Neese lost two games in the final minutes. That is a sign of a lack of depth.

 

[Redrain07]

The man has a point..just because you simply hate Lamar won't keep them down forever.

[Birdseye]

More delusional b.s. and you still havnt named me any players from Lamar that would have significantly improved McNeese over the last 3 years. Name me some recruits that chose Lamar over McNeese. Sam has beaten Lamar 160-17 over the last 3 years with 2nd stringers finishing the last half of those games. If any of these players were going to improve McNeese enough to beat us, why didn't they do anything when they played us? Lamar takes the SETX players that cant go D1 anywhere else.

 

If your to much of an idiot to see what changed over the last 3 years for Sam Houston, you dont have the slightest bit of knowledge about this conference and don't deserve my time. (Coach Fritz is what changed, dumbass)

 

You speak too much truth for these folks.

Good thing you left awful Beaumont to go to UH. Who lost to FIRST YEAR FBS school Texas State. 31 - 13. That is a former Southland school that couldn't win a championship in the Southland. Conference USA football must be a high level.

 

Also the social life at UH must be awful. When I was in collage I was more interested in the women not what was going on on a message board. But I guess it keeps you off of Westheimer.

[Carl101559]

We cant compete in southland, until we can i say stay pat, or its basketball all over again. You people are crazy, truthfully we should be d-3, hell we cam beat those schools

[coachacola]

We cant compete in southland, until we can i say stay pat, or its basketball all over again. You people are crazy, truthfully we should be d-3, hell we cam beat those schools

 

Saying we should be D3 means this is not a serious post.

[BigNasty92]

We cant compete in southland, until we can i say stay pat, or its basketball all over again. You people are crazy, truthfully we should be d-3, hell we cam beat those schools

 

Oh, lord. Here comes another one....

[Redrain07]

I think that was an incredibly ignorant comment. I honestly don't think people realize how much goes into being in an FBS conference. I think we have the money, Facilities, and Fan support but we aren't competitive in FCS right now. Unless Sam/Mcneese/SFA all make a move for FBS then I think our best bet is to stay where we are and build the program. If we were in Sam's position with our money then I'd say yes let's make that move but we are just simply not ready.

[geezer]

LU does not have the market size or the Alamo Dome to play in but otherwise Lamar is overall atheletically equal to or stronger than UTSA so if they are able to move up and let the football program develop so is Lamar. The same thing goes for UTA.