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Power forward J.C. Washington of Houston Yates has de-committed from Northern Colorado. He doesn't seem to hold many offers so maybe Pat Knight can get him signed. ESPN gives him 3-stars and ranks him #49 at the PF position.

 

http://www.bigskybball.com/2013/11/jc-washington-decommits-from-northern.html

 

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/144257/jc-washington

 

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Thanks Lamar Pride, sometimes it is better to wait until the season has passed, and then they know where we need some help!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to see how the season plays out, because we have a couple of real bellcows to lean on in Nimrod and Ross, and if can find a couple of more as the season goes on, it could be a special season for us!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Knightman

 

Dude, you are delusional. I think you need medication

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So explain to me again why you guys expect Pat Knight to get anyone legit to choose Lamar? Is it the Knight name, cause most kids don't know who Bobby Knight is and when they google him all they really see is what a jerk he was to his players. Is it the program, cause the program is in a shambles and has been for years and the 3-30 record last year really says we are on the rise!

Get real. We need a coach and a recruiter.

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So explain to me again why you guys expect Pat Knight to get anyone legit to choose Lamar? Is it the Knight name, cause most kids don't know who Bobby Knight is and when they google him all they really see is what a jerk he was to his players. Is it the program, cause the program is in a shambles and has been for years and the 3-30 record last year really says we are on the rise!

Get real. We need a coach and a recruiter.

 

On what do you base that little gem of information? I didn't play organized basketball competitively...ever, but I know who Bobby Knight is. The program isn't doing too hot now, but to say it has been in shambles for years is garbage. We went to the NCAA tournament two years ago with the best record in years and the first 20-win season in even more years. I don't have the answers, and I don't speak for everyone, but your post doesn't exude the ideas of someone who is well-informed.

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On what do you base that little gem of information? I didn't play organized basketball competitively...ever, but I know who Bobby Knight is.

And how old are you?

My 6'5" nephew is 15, plays AAU Basketball and when asked had no clue who Bobby Knight was!!! His buddy who also plays AAU didn't know him either.

 

The program isn't doing too hot now, but to say it has been in shambles for years is garbage. We went to the NCAA tournament two years ago with the best record in years and the first 20-win season in even more years. I don't have the answers, and I don't speak for everyone, but your post doesn't exude the ideas of someone who is well-informed.

How many Outright SLC Regular Season titles has LU won in the last 27 years (1987-2012)....Give you a hint, a man with no arms could count them on his fingers!!! This is the SOUTHLAND CONFERENCE. Thats in Shambles.

 

To give you some insight from someone who is NOT WELL-INFORMED...

LU since 1987 (27 seasons not include this years debacle)

48% winning percentage over all.

Lets stick to the great Conference Records since thats really all that matters:

47% in the great SLC

44% total (includes ASC, SBC and SLC)

6 winning seasons out of 16 in the SLC (means LU has a Lossing season 63% of the time)

7 winning seasons out of 27 total (means LU has a Lossing season 74% of the time)

In the last 5 years LU has had 1 winning season and has a conference winning percentage of 37%

 

THESE are called facts...Not a biased opinion.

The program is in shambles and has been for some time.

 

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I agree the program is down and has been for quite awhile, basically since they killed football the first time. The thought that LU would maintain and improve basketball after ditching football was really stupid. Now I don't know if PK is the man to bring LU back to respectability, but I doubt even a top ten current coach could deliver what most on this board want to see in two or three years. PK will admit that last years recruiting class was a bust, this years is a significant improvement and although the record doesn't show it yet.
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Stop using your love for the Knight legacy, use your brain and look at the numbers Knightman. LU has one senior. That means that unless an underclassmen leaves or is forced out by Coach Knight there will be only one scholarship offered for next year. Unless Coach Knight gets extremely lucky and gets a top ten ranked front court player there is no way your going to offer that scholarship at this point in the season.

 

No kidding!!! I can't even stand to read his ignorant a$$ posts anymore

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On what do you base that little gem of information? I didn't play organized basketball competitively...ever, but I know who Bobby Knight is.

And how old are you?

My 6'5" nephew is 15, plays AAU Basketball and when asked had no clue who Bobby Knight was!!! His buddy who also plays AAU didn't know him either.

 

The program isn't doing too hot now, but to say it has been in shambles for years is garbage. We went to the NCAA tournament two years ago with the best record in years and the first 20-win season in even more years. I don't have the answers, and I don't speak for everyone, but your post doesn't exude the ideas of someone who is well-informed.

How many Outright SLC Regular Season titles has LU won in the last 27 years (1987-2012)....Give you a hint, a man with no arms could count them on his fingers!!! This is the SOUTHLAND CONFERENCE. Thats in Shambles.

 

To give you some insight from someone who is NOT WELL-INFORMED...

LU since 1987 (27 seasons not include this years debacle)

48% winning percentage over all.

Lets stick to the great Conference Records since thats really all that matters:

47% in the great SLC

44% total (includes ASC, SBC and SLC)

6 winning seasons out of 16 in the SLC (means LU has a Lossing season 63% of the time)

7 winning seasons out of 27 total (means LU has a Lossing season 74% of the time)

In the last 5 years LU has had 1 winning season and has a conference winning percentage of 37%

 

THESE are called facts...Not a biased opinion.

The program is in shambles and has been for some time.

 

Losing not lossing.

 

While I understand your post...a 15 year old probably has only heard of a dozen or so coaches.

 

If Pat Knight isn't out recruiting players himself then he needs to be fired.

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While I understand your post...a 15 year old probably has only heard of a dozen or so coaches.

 

Thats the point...most kids that are being recruited today between the ages of 14 and 17 have only heard of a hand full of college coaches and Bobby Knight is no longer on that list. and I was answering this guys response:

 

On what do you base that little gem of information? I didn't play organized basketball competitively...ever, but I know who Bobby Knight is...but your post doesn't exude the ideas of someone who is well-informed.

 

And in response I would also say that TBonesLU's post exudes the ideas of someone who is seeing the LU program through Cardinal colored lenses. One decent year in 25 does not say good program or even average program.

 

Bottom line is Pat needs a top notch recruiting coordinator and he needs to get on board with the guy and hustle...If they only have one maybe two schollys for next year then I would go for broke...Recruit the hell outta someone that they shouldn't get, maybe even the top JUCO. If it works then one SLC POY caliber player can turn things around quickly with good coaching and if it doesn't work then they only suffer on one player not a big recruiting class.

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While I understand your post...a 15 year old probably has only heard of a dozen or so coaches.

 

Thats the point...most kids that are being recruited today between the ages of 14 and 17 have only heard of a hand full of college coaches and Bobby Knight is no longer on that list. and I was answering this guys response:

 

On what do you base that little gem of information? I didn't play organized basketball competitively...ever, but I know who Bobby Knight is...but your post doesn't exude the ideas of someone who is well-informed.

 

And in response I would also say that TBonesLU's post exudes the ideas of someone who is seeing the LU program through Cardinal colored lenses. One decent year in 25 does not say good program or even average program.

 

Bottom line is Pat needs a top notch recruiting coordinator and he needs to get on board with the guy and hustle...If they only have one maybe two schollys for next year then I would go for broke...Recruit the hell outta someone that they shouldn't get, maybe even the top JUCO. If it works then one SLC POY caliber player can turn things around quickly with good coaching and if it doesn't work then they only suffer on one player not a big recruiting class.

 

And what do you say to the year Roc won the regular season title? A bad program? Lamar Sanders, Kenny Dawkins, Darren Hopkins, Currye Todd, etc.?

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Don't need a 6'5 guard/forward who only made ONE three in last two years!!!! Need a physical post player and/or shooter!!!

 

A 6'5 guard/forward who is NOT from Texas and does NOT shoot 3's...sounds like the perfect Pat Knight recruit to me! ;D

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If he wants a 6-5 guard/forward there is one about twenty miles west of the campus or has the kid at HJ decided to go elsewhere because of LU's lack of interest.
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Not trying to tell the coach where to recruit, but it seems like one would look for in-state athletes if they met the needs of the program if for no other reason than making the money go farther. Right now, there is one in-state athlete on the men's team.

 

Using Lamar's tuition cost calculator, the estimate only for tuition is $4,505 for in-state vs $9,815 for out-of-state. That's around a $64,000 difference per semester assuming a 15 hour load for the 12 out-of-state athletes on the basketball team. For those 12, the tuition cost difference would work out to $512,000 for a four year ride assuming no summer school.

 

Sorry...the retired beancounter / financial analyst in me popped out. :)

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That's great news! Apparently that is not the case in all states. That really helps to make our $'s go farther and gives the state an advantage over other states.

 

North Carolina - http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/07/north-carolina-athletic-departments-face-higher-scholarship-costs/1#.UvURu6E25TM

 

Colorado - from "Your Impact" CUBuff Club - http://cubuffclub.com/giving/your-impact

 

Florida - From Seminole Boosters - How Much Does a Scholarship Cost -

 

How Much Does A Scholarship Cost?

 

For the school year ending June 2012, the AVERAGE cost of an athletic scholarship was approximately $39,063. Our student-athletes are currently, and traditionally, almost evenly divided between Florida residents and non-Florida residents. That means that half are subject to in-state tuition and half to out-of-state tuition. Scholarships for out-of-state students cost twice as much as for in-state students.

http://one.fsu.edu/page.aspx?pid=2167

 

Georgia - Georgia Tech Scholarship Endowments - http://www.ramblinwreck.com/ot/alexander/scholarship-endowments.html

 

...a "full ride" scholarship cost the Georgia Tech Athletic Association approximately $15,000 for in-state and $30,000 for out-of-state student-athletes...

 

Off the subject, but it looks like if we ever decided to move up and got the invitation, the budgetary need for a Texas university would not be as great as it would be in some other states.

 

To get back to the recruit thread, it looks like we can recruit the best athlete we can get and don't need to worry about state of residence.

 

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