Remaining Games

[NorthoftheBorder]

6 left. 3 should be easy wins! 3 games with upper echelon SLC teams. Progress would be beating 2 of those 3 and finishing 9-3. I would like for them to win out and go 10-2 because I feel they would make the FCS playoffs doing that. Yeah if you only beat 1 of the upper 3 you have won more games but you also had an easier overall schedule. I know you guys have a lot of thoughts about all this.

[AggiesAreWe]

If Lamar goes 3-3 to finish 7-5, is that considered a successful season and does Woodard keep his job considering LU went 4-8 last year? Edited October 6, 2014 by AggiesAreWe

[KABrother88]

If Lamar goes 3-3 to finish 7-5, is that considered a successful season and does Woodard keep his job considering LU went 4-8 last year?

 

To me we have to beat someone we aren't supposed to beat for him to hang around. We actually went 5-6 last year with wins against OK Panhandle, Bacone, Grambling, Nicholls, & SFA...4 games we were supposed to win...but even then the SFA game was questionable if that was a game we weren't supposed to win. Considering the way we had played them since we brought football back I could see it as such but SFA was awful last year...and we needed a last second field goal at home to win. Lamar needs to beat a middle of the pack team team like a UCA to show progress...had an opportunity to do that against SHSU but we know how that went...Lamar shouldn't accept a .500 record beating D-II teams and the bottom feeders of the SLC. As the SLC season plays out we will see if the ACU game becomes a good win or not.

[Card Nation]

Below is a Wikipedia link to Lamar's past season's records. I thought it interesting. Out of 44 seasons, Lamar has won 8 games 6 times. Lamar won 7 games twice in history. Lamar has never won 9 games. One of the 8 win seasons had 12 games, 3 of the 8 win seasons had 11 games and the other two 8-win seasons had 10 games. Lamar has had 14 winning seasons in football and 30 losing seasons. Even the 1960's conference champion teams were just 6 and 4. They must have had tough out of conference games, obviously. No coach was ever replaced with a winning record, but most of the coaches in recent history (1970's and 80's) only hung around 3 or 4 years after continuous losing by all of them. After looking at the winning teams from the 50's and 60's, they were from coaches that had been there 10 plus years or so with constant fluctuations between winning and losing during their tenure. A different time in college football for sure.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamar_Cardinals_football#Seasons

[geezer]

Lamar's progress has been much less than most fans are satisfied with, but if LU goes 7-5 overall I think Woodard will probably keep his job for one or maybe two more years. While occasionally a new coach will be successful immediately, normally a program falls off at least a little as the new coach brings in his philosophy and his players. While I don't think the administration or us fans should be satisfied, the program still appears to be making progress based on won/loss record. Assuming there is some kind of rotation of teams for conference games does anyone know who comes onto the schedule and who goes off. I think next year is really the make or break year for Woodard, how does he handle the transition from Berry to a new quarterback. Does he keep Kuech?

[coachacola]

My guess is with a 7-5 record Woodard stays but Kueck goes. But this schedule was setup for 7 relatively easy wins (2 non-D1 opponents, 3 FCS newbies, plus Grambling State & Nicholls State) so is that really a big deal? I want to know when we will we see that big conference win that shocks everyone. SELA just won big over NW State and has another big home game against UCA next week. Maybe LU can do what an average SE Mizzou State team did a few weeks ago and pull an upset.

[Pirate88]

Woodard has been here for 7 years!! 7-5 after 7 years is not a good return on the investment. He needs to be gone yesterday. 7 years and you're a middle of the pack SLC team?? Are people really satisfied with that?

[geezer]

I don't think anyone said satisfied, but as long as the powers to be and big money backers think there is progress (no matter how small) my money is on Woodard being back next year. Whether I like it or not or whether I'm satisfied. When was the last time LU football had a winning season? It has been more than 30 years I believe.

[KABrother88]

1979...went 6-3-2...14 playing seasons ago. Went 5-5 in '89 before they shut it down

[KABrother88]

Woodard has been here for 7 years!! 7-5 after 7 years is not a good return on the investment. He needs to be gone yesterday. 7 years and you're a middle of the pack SLC team?? Are people really satisfied with that?

 

Correct he has technically been the coach since 2008 but he didn't even have players until 2009 and all they did was practice against each other. People say 5 years because that how long we've been playing competitive games thus you have something to compare your team and progress against

[puddin tane]

1979...went 6-3-2...14 playing seasons ago. Went 5-5 in '89 before they shut it down

 

with this schedule, the team in the first year of the program would have won 5 or 6 games. We gotta win 8.

[smith]

I hope in the near future we can stay away from these NAIA and DIII schools and only play 1 DII school at most.

There should probably be some asterisks in the record books because of these games.

 

These are enrollment numbers of our NAIA and DIII opponents I grabbed off of the internet... don't know how accurate

2010 Webber International 751

2010 Langston 3,900

2010 OK Panhandle St 1,463

2011 Texas College 733

2012 Langston 3,900

2012 McMurry 1,212

2013 OK Panhandle St 1,463

2013 Bacone College 900

2014 Texas College 733

Edited October 7, 2014 by smith

[Lamarcard81]

I was really down after the Sam Houston debacle. I feel much better after coming from behind and winning in the 4th quarter on the road in Abilene. If it was up to me I would keep Coach Woodard if he beats SELA, UCA or McNiece and wins at least 8 games WITH NO MORE BLOWOUT LOSES especially against McNiece. Laying down in the fourth quarter to a conference opponent is just unacceptable.

[NorthlakeC1]

My guess is with a 7-5 record Woodard stays but Kueck goes. But this schedule was setup for 7 relatively easy wins (2 non-D1 opponents, 3 FCS newbies, plus Grambling State & Nicholls State) so is that really a big deal? I want to know when we will we see that big conference win that shocks everyone. SELA just won big over NW State and has another big home game against UCA next week. Maybe LU can do what an average SE Mizzou State team did a few weeks ago and pull an upset.

 

You do realized that SEMO is ranked 23rd? That ranking is higher than SHSU, NWST and UCA...I wouldn't call them average in one breath while saying in the next that a SLC win over Sam, UCA or NWST would make your season.

[puddin tane]

You do realized that SEMO is ranked 23rd? That ranking is higher than SHSU, NWST and UCA...I wouldn't call them average in one breath while saying in the next that a SLC win over Sam, UCA or NWST would make your season.

 

who cares about semo

[woodman]

I am kinda new to LU football so can someone tell me what the records were for the conference winners over the last few years? I don't know if 7-5 would come close to winning the conference, or does it take 9-3 or 10-2?

[CraigS]

I am kinda new to LU football so can someone tell me what the records were for the conference winners over the last few years? I don't know if 7-5 would come close to winning the conference, or does it take 9-3 or 10-2?

 

That depend on where those wins and losses are...if the 7 wins are conference wins then 7-5 would do it...if the 2 losses were conference losses then 10-2 would not!

[CS]

This team is not doing any better than 7-5. Period.

[LAZEEK]

4-2 over last 6 or the RW era is over. That is what I was told this week. Also told that that may not be enough.

[puddin tane]

4-2 over last 6 or the RW era is over. That is what I was told this week. Also told that that may not be enough.

 

 

Whats walter gonna say?

[KABrother88]

Whats walter gonna say?

 

Hopefully he says to tell him how much we need...

[Pirate88]

4-2 over last 6 or the RW era is over. That is what I was told this week. Also told that that may not be enough.

 

Ray better hope Central Ark is willing to lay down for us. I see this team finishing 3-2 over the last five games and record of 7-5.

[geezer]

Did the Sam Houston loss cause Craig to go away. Funny there's not the same kind of chatter following Saturday's performances. Or is it because Lamar has a buy week?

[CraigS]

Did the Sam Houston loss cause Craig to go away. Funny there's not the same kind of chatter following Saturday's performances. Or is it because Lamar has a buy week?

 

I didn't go anywhere. I was posting the scores (good or bad) in the SLC score thread. Not like you people (and some on Katfans) I support my teams during good or bad....I don't default to FIRE THE COACH - FIRE THE COACH....they're as bad as some of you!

 

Not sure why the change in play calling, in the first qtr and half SHSU owned NSU running the ball...then all of a sudden the play calling went to pass pass pass knowing JJ can't throw accurately. Play calling cost the Kats....with that said...I also know this staff is a spread minded staff, the players were recruited to run the read option...and they are good at it. Why the coaches want to change it is beyond me...but it is their team...maybe they were just proving a point they could beat NSU with the run, but it was more important to run the offense they intend to run in the future...I don't know..and, the defense did not play with the same intensity as they did against MSU...secondary killed the Kats, and no pressure on what was being said to the most accurate QB in the FCS.....but I refuse to call for Keeler's job...

 

LU did play well, as they should have against a bad team. Need to clean a few things up, if they want to win against better teams though...to many penalties and turnovers.

[puddin tane]

Well, we seem to play Uca close every year. I wish the game was at home!