** Bacone vs Lamar Game Thread **

[geezer]

I meant the question rhetorically but thanks for the information. I think in regards to the discussion here about Bacore it could be similar if Lamar was to have a solid year and beat either SELA or SAM and wind up with one or two losses in conference. Would they get an at large bid to the FCS playoffs or get left out like Baylor did last year.

[AggiesAreWe]

Lamar should never schedule a team like Bacone ever again.

[eagle eye]

All I was saying is scheduling laughers at the beginning of the season is old hat. I'm sure that Coach would like a better game to start the season and for the main reason given in another post, attendance. I planned to go to the game but events conspired against me but sometimes you just want to begin with a win. If Lamar can go 8-4 then the W we got Saturday night looks a little better. Heck in their 2012 NCAA Championship season Alabama played Florida Atlantic and Western Carolina but when the NCAA was considering them for rankings all they saw was 11-1 (loss to A&M). In 2011 Alabama had 3 laughers playing Kent State, North Texas and Georgia Southern (FCS school). It happens all the time. I really don't know how far in advance Lamar schedules games but a new program especially is probably out begging for somebody to play. At least a D2 school? Cool or do you want a hard game to start the season which might put us at 0-1? Most teams want an easy game to get a barometer of exactly what they have. The non-conference schedule at some point can be as hard or as easy as you want to make it but in the few short years Lamar has had a team again you sort need to build some cred. We're getting there but we need to appreciate what we have right now. W--mark it down, I'll take it.

[Lamarcard81]

Both the Bacon game and the Baylor game are a waste of time in my opinion. I hope going forward we schedule at least a SWAC team for our "win" game and stay away from the SEC, and Big 12 altogether. Match-ups with UH, Tulane, UTEP, UTSA, La Tech might not bring the same payday but we have alumni that can make up the difference. Its the way of the world.... a handful get bigger and richer and the rest do the best they can. We quit playing for 20 years and we are what we are. There is no reason for LU to take a beating for money in sports or real life. I am proud of our progress as a contender in a difficult conference in just 5 years. I am tired of being a punchline on ESPN 97.5 every time a discussion comes up about big schools weak non-conference schedules.

 

Go ahead pile on. I just hope Briles has more class than Sumlin and is not throwing passes on 4th down leading 59-3 with 4 minutes left in the game with his second string QB still in the game.......but I expect he will do the same.

[LUSportsFan]

Both the Bacon game and the Baylor game are a waste of time in my opinion. I hope going forward we schedule at least a SWAC team for our "win" game and stay away from the SEC, and Big 12 altogether. Match-ups with UH, Tulane, UTEP, UTSA, La Tech might not bring the same payday but we have alumni that can make up the difference. Its the way of the world.... a handful get bigger and richer and the rest do the best they can. We quit playing for 20 years and we are what we are. There is no reason for LU to take a beating for money in sports or real life. I am proud of our progress as a contender in a difficult conference in just 5 years. I am tired of being a punchline on ESPN 97.5 every time a discussion comes up about big schools weak non-conference schedules.

 

Go ahead pile on. I just hope Briles has more class than Sumlin and is not throwing passes on 4th down leading 59-3 with 4 minutes left in the game with his second string QB still in the game.......but I expect he will do the same.

 

I wholeheartedly agree about teams like Bacone College except on their end, the game is their equivalent of our Baylor vs Lamar, A&M vs Lamar, Oklahoma State vs Lamar. Our game with Baylor matching an FCS against an FBS is hardly the exception. Out of 125 FCS football programs, there are 52 instances this season of P5 vs FCS.

 

As far as the punchline, maybe someone should should redirect it. There are seven such contests in the Southland Conference this season, and unlike some past years, Nicholls State only has one of them.

 

It's a good opportunity for the players, and sometimes the underdog wins like South Dakota State vs Kansas, Portland State vs Washington State so far this season. It's just that our opponent this week is ranked #4 in the nation, but the game was scheduled in April, 2011 with the Bears coming off of a 7-6 record in 2010. I have no problem with moving to G5 teams as opponents if we can get them on the schedule. So far, it looks like we may be headed that way with Houston next year and North Texas in 2017. I'd like to see Rice on the schedule too.

Edited September 8, 2015 by LUSportsFan

[coachacola]

SFA is playing at TCU and Central Arkansas at Oklahoma State this weekend. SLC teams do this every year, but the schools in the power conferences are starting to move away from playing FCS schools. I think the Big 10 has already told their members not to schedule any more.

 

And I think LU should no longer schedule NAIA schools, only D2 or D1 schools please!

[KABrother88]

SFA is playing at TCU and Central Arkansas at Oklahoma State this weekend. SLC teams do this every year, but the schools in the power conferences are starting to move away from playing FCS schools. I think the Big 10 has already told their members not to schedule any more.

 

And I think LU should no longer schedule NAIA schools, only D2 or D1 schools please!

 

That's my thinking. The Power 5 conferences are on their way to separating from the rest of FBS. Those are the big money payday a and they are about to be extinct. In turn we'll probably end up with team from the American, C-USA or the Sun Belt as our money games.

 

My issue is that by us playing against NAIA team we are dropping past 2 levels (D-II and D-III) to basically play a glorified club team. At worst you would say a P-5 team just drops past 1 level (non P-5) to play FCS.

[Guest austinred]

An NAIA team is not a lower level than DIII. A NAIA team has 24 scholarships and DIII has no scholarships. A DII team has 36 scholarships so it is not terrible different than a NAIA team. However, I would also like to see LU stop scheduling sub DI FCS teams.

[KABrother88]

An NAIA team is not a lower level than DIII. A NAIA team has 24 scholarships and DIII has no scholarships. A DII team has 36 scholarships so it is not terrible different than a NAIA team. However, I would also like to see LU stop scheduling sub DI FCS teams.

 

I would have to do some digging to find where it was stated but I remember seeing Bacone and/or Texas College do not offer scholarships. NAIA school are allowed up to 24 but are not obligated to use any of them.

 

Fact remains that I don't want us playing below D-II.

 

Think about this. Had we beat UCA last year, would the selection committee put us in the playoff? Most would think since that would have broken a tie with SFA, who got in, then we would have made it in instead of them. However I feel like the committee would have looked at our total body of work to see we beat an NAIA (TC) a transitioning D-II (MC), then also UIW, HBU, and Nicholls, all while being blown out by Sam and SELA. Had we not played TC and replaced them with someone halfway worth the game, even if it had to be on the road, would that have better prepared us for the UCA game and made our résumé a little better? Hindsight 20/20.

[puddin tane]

Wasn't UCA our 10th game? If we weren't prepared by week 10, ain't nobody's fault but ours.

 

do I like playing Bacone? No....but not enough to bitch about it for a week. Y'all are sounding just like the FBS fans, "we are too good to play ________. ". We've had 1 winning season!!! We ain't good enough to turn our noses up at anyone!

 

Hell, until we beat Sam...they oughta make us play AT Bacone as incentive.....Bacone should be the booby prize for the SHSU-LU game. loser plays Bacone the next year...

 

i don't mind a D2 team...it would be like returning the favor for getting to play a FBS team.

[cardinal]

Wasn't UCA our 10th game? If we weren't prepared by week 10, ain't nobody's fault but ours.

 

do I like playing Bacone? No....but not enough to bitch about it for a week. Y'all are sounding just like the FBS fans, "we are too good to play ________. ". We've had 1 winning season!!! We ain't good enough to turn our noses up at anyone!

 

Hell, until we beat Sam...they oughta make us play AT Bacone as incentive.....Bacone should be the booby prize for the SHSU-LU game. loser plays Bacone the next year...

 

i don't mind a D2 team...it would be like returning the favor for getting to play a FBS team.

 

Every team in the country schedules "easy" games and most of the time they are early in the year. In case some people haven't noticed, colleges don't have a pre-season like the nfl to try and get a read on their team/players. Yes, I'd like for us to play a little better competition but we have a bunch of games left where we'll have PLENTY of competition. As for these games serving no purpose like someone stated earlier...that is TOTAL b.s. You don't think our coaches are evaluating players? We've basically got all the spring practices and only one live game to figure out who needs to be starting. And as for the Baylor game serving no purpose? Now that is laughable. Our program NEEDS those games to survive financially. I wish the FBS would require big FBS schools to schedule FCS schools. If they totally stop doing that I can't help but wonder what will end up happening with a lot of FCS programs who count on the big money games to survive financially. I'm with puddin, it's one damn game, it's not that big of a deal. Enjoy an easy win and go on with life.

[cardinal]

That's my thinking. The Power 5 conferences are on their way to separating from the rest of FBS. Those are the big money payday a and they are about to be extinct. In turn we'll probably end up with team from the American, C-USA or the Sun Belt as our money games.

 

My issue is that by us playing against NAIA team we are dropping past 2 levels (D-II and D-III) to basically play a glorified club team. At worst you would say a P-5 team just drops past 1 level (non P-5) to play FCS.

 

from the internet:

 

3 Things to Know About NAIA Recruiting

 

1. Like Division III, most programs have small recruiting budgets. Unlike Division III, NAIA schools can offer athletic scholarships. This means that, despite their small size, NAIA schools have very competitive sports – about on the level of NCAA Division II.
   
2. There are no restrictions at all on coach communications. Coaches can call, email, or text potential recruits. They can write on their Facebook walls or tweet at them. They can visit their houses or go to their games. There are no time or age restrictions. Even more so than Division III, being proactive can lead to huge benefits when it comes to recruiting.
   
3. Although they don’t use the National Letter of Intent that Division I and II schools do, NAIA schools can draft their own binding letters of intent. This can give confidence to the school and the athlete about where they will be playing.
   

If you want competitive athletics and a guaranteed roster spot or an athletic scholarship, if you’re interested in an institution with a small student body and small class sizes, the NAIA may be for you.

[cardinal]

#11 at QB...no question.

 

He sure looked good in this game. Looks just as big or bigger than Minden. Definitely faster and definitely has a stronger arm.

[KABrother88]

Wasn't UCA our 10th game? If we weren't prepared by week 10, ain't nobody's fault but ours.

 

do I like playing Bacone? No....but not enough to bitch about it for a week. Y'all are sounding just like the FBS fans, "we are too good to play ________. ". We've had 1 winning season!!! We ain't good enough to turn our noses up at anyone!

 

Hell, until we beat Sam...they oughta make us play AT Bacone as incentive.....Bacone should be the booby prize for the SHSU-LU game. loser plays Bacone the next year...

 

i don't mind a D2 team...it would be like returning the favor for getting to play a FBS team.

 

Again not saying it would have made the difference but in my opinion, facing some kind of adversity could have potentially better prepared prepared the team vs having the starters pulled in the 2nd quarter.

[coachacola]

He sure looked good in this game. Looks just as big or bigger than Minden. Definitely faster and definitely has a stronger arm.

 

Someone tweeted yesterday that Carson Earp will start against Baylor. He's 6'4" compared to 6'2" for Minden, but he's also more mobile. His running skills will probably be important against Baylor because he may not have much time to sit in the pocket and pass the ball.

[KABrother88]

One thing I haven't really seen discussed is the kickoffs. How refreshing was it to see the return man actually have to retreat to get in position to catch it. Ball kicked off 11 times and minus his first kick that was fielded at the 14, 8 of the final 10 went into the endzone with 6 being downed as touchbacks. The 2 that didn't reach the endzone were fielded at the 3 yard line although one of them was as ugly as the opening KO but the returner bailed us out by fielding it and immediately stepping out of bounds.

[eagle eye]

One thing I haven't really seen discussed is the kickoffs. How refreshing was it to see the return man actually have to retreat to get in position to catch it. Ball kicked off 11 times and minus his first kick that was fielded at the 14, 8 of the final 10 went into the endzone with 6 being downed as touchbacks. The 2 that didn't reach the endzone were fielded at the 3 yard line although one of them was as ugly as the opening KO but the returner bailed us out by fielding it and immediately stepping out of bounds.

 

Thanks for finding a positive from the game. That info is worth hearing about for sure and your right it's nice to have a kicker with that kind of range. It could also translate into points during the season on FGs. Nice observation!

[coachacola]

I guess another positive from playing Bacone is that all the illegal motions by Oubre at center didn't hurt at all. I think he committed 3 and there was a total of 5 by the offensive line. I sure hope they get those kinks worked out this week because they'll have their hands full against the Baylor DL.

[coachacola]

Nice view of the stadium during the game:

 

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[cardinal]

I guess another positive from playing Bacone is that all the illegal motions by Oubre at center didn't hurt at all. I think he committed 3 and there was a total of 5 by the offensive line. I sure hope they get those kinks worked out this week because they'll have their hands full against the Baylor DL.

 

I forgot about that. What in the world was he doing?