** LU vs ACU Game Thread **

[Houston Hoops]

Weisbrod will bring a much needed inside presence to the team next season AND experience. Its all about getting all the right pieces in place

[geezer]

My point with Bosha was he apparently wasn't healthy when the season started. Unless the rules have changed I believe you can redshirt as a sophomore or even a junior as long as you don't play at all that year.

[KABrother88]

My point with Bosha was he apparently wasn't healthy when the season started. Unless the rules have changed I believe you can redshirt as a sophomore or even a junior as long as you don't play at all that year.

 

Correct...happened with the football team this year. John Craven was a Jr. who had been the starter the last 2 seasons at LG...had a knee injury in the spring that was going to keep him out of the first half of the 2015 season...when Craven was cleared, the staff felt confident enough in the replacements to go ahead and hold Craven out for the remainder of the year and use his RS so he'll still have 2 years left

[baller]

You can redshirt a player before the season starts.If you redshirt a player and you decide to play that player later in the season you have used up a year of eligibility the same as if the player was used since the beginning of the year.Players typically have five years to play four years but rarely get a sixth year to play four if they had really impactive injuries.If the player plays early in the year and sustains a season ending injury,used to be played in about 20 per cent of games or less,the player may apply for a medical redshirt.Coaches and compliance people tell me the toughest medical redshirt to get is for nagging injuries.That would seem to describe Bosha.Redshirting a player is usually a joint decision of both the player and coach.It is typically not done with weaker students as it increases the academic ineligibility odds due to the 20 per cent continuing progress rule.The old coaches adage is the good thing about freshman is they become sophomores.Oklahoma's great player Buddy Hield has greatly improved his shooting every year.It is really remarkable how much good players often improve even their free throw percentage from their freshman year to their junior and senior years.Look up Southland Conference Player of the Year in 2012 Patrick Richard for a classic example.If you want a better understanding of statistical analysis and sports follow Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey,Read or watch Moneyball and read the book Scorecasting.In another life I did some statistical analysis for The Sporting News and covered some Final Fours.Head NBA talent guru Marty Blake in the 80's once told me the optimum number of turnovers for a winning NBA team was 12-16.More than 16 was taking too many risks,but less than twelve and you were not taking enough.He said that stat was one of his top predictors of championship contending teams.He was country when country wasn't cool.

[Sweet T]

The NCAA has to approve the "medical redshirt" as someone so eloquently stated, nagging injuries won't get an approval. Hevwas told he couldnt redshirt. How good to you think Lamar would be if they still had Tyran, holiday, and Donovan Ross?

[Sweet T]

Zjori ' s injuries don't prevent him from playing. He doesn't play well, but he can still play. Someone with an acl rupture can't play at all. For the record, there is not a such thing as a medical redshirt, it is called a hardship waiver.

[KABrother88]

Zjori ' s injuries don't prevent him from playing. He doesn't play well, but he can still play. Someone with an acl rupture can't play at all. For the record, there is not a such thing as a medical redshirt, it is called a hardship waiver.

 

While it is technically called a hardship waiver by the NCAA, it is more often referred to as a medical redshirt...even by the schools...it means the same thing.

 

I think what people are trying to get at is if it could have been determined before the season if he would not fully recover due to the injuries being nagging, then sitting out the season and taking a traditional redshirt might have been the best path. That's a tough call though because you never know how someone's body will react or how fast/slow one can recover. Then you factor in the competitive nature of an athlete and they are always going to tell you they are fine to get back out there.

[geezer]

As stated earlier I'm no expert on NCAA redshirt rules but from what others have written and what I read on the NCAA site, I think Bosha was given bad advice. I believe he could have used a normal redshirt season. But his playing status really isn't about him, it is about could he have sat out this year and been in a better position to help the program more next year. Unless he was able to play at the level he started last year he wasn't going to make a big difference this year.

[Houston Hoops]

Unless it is a season ending injury, the NCAA will not approve a medical redshirt.

[Sweet T]

Geezer Google basketball hardship waiver

[Sweet T]

What is a NORMAL redshirt?

[geezer]

It is exactly the same as an incoming freshman not playing in an actual game all year. I suppose their may be a need to declare that the player is redshirting but other than that an incoming player has five years to use up four years of eligibility. The usual course is a coach doesn't feel the player is quite ready to play and the school has enough depth to let them practice, participate in the weight program etc. and get a leg up on their education, however from what I looked at it doesn't have to be the first year. I found a post from 2013 on fishduck.com where the writer was suggesting the Oregon consider redshirting one of their sophomore tight ends who played in some games as freshmen. The team was scheduled to be six deep at the position and probably only three would actually see game time. Edited February 10, 2016 by geezer

[Houston Hoops]

Usually what can happen is that a coach will call in his player and ask if he wants to red shirt because of potential lack of playing time and maturity reasons as well. The problem a player may run into with a red shirt year comes when and if that player decides to transfer later, if he intends on staying at a D1 school.

[Sweet T]

I was told he couldnt. He is definitely lamenting the fact that he has lost his entire sophomore year.