**Central Arkansas vs Lamar Game Thread**

[KABrother88]

Kickoff set for 6:00 PM Saturday against the #4 Central Arkansas Bears at Provost Umphery Stadium

 

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[KABrother88]

Cardinals Eye Bears for Homecoming

 

When Lamar University steps on the field Saturday for its Homecoming showdown against No. 4 Central Arkansas, it will be a contrast of teams heading in opposite directions. The Cardinals would like to change the direction for both schools Saturday beginning with the 6 p.m. kick off.

 

The Cardinals enter Saturday's game with a 1-7 (.125) overall record and one of two Southland schools still searching for it first conference win of the season (0-6). The Cardinals have dropped six straight since crushing UT Permian Basin in the home opener.

 

UCA travels to the Golden Triangle as the Southland leader with a 7-1 (.875) overall record and the lone remaining undefeated team in SLC games (6-0). The Bears have rattled off seven-straight wins since a season-opening setback at Kansas State. Since that time, UCA has been held to fewer than 28 points only twice, and both of those games were league victories. Of the Bears seven wins in 2017, only one (Stephen F. Austin) has been a margin of fewer than 10 points.

 

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[bigcam2903]

Regardless of Stats or records, the game must be played. No injuries, try to keep it close, limit big plays. With that being said, hopefully on the scoreboard they don't carry the 1

(for the mathematicians) Lol

[geezer]

Halfway through the first quarter and the game is tied at 7. Cards took the opening kickoff and typically went three and out. As most of us expected UCA received the punt and drove for a first possession touchdown. Lamar repeated the first offensive series and punted again. This time the Cards got an interception near mid field and with a couple of breaks managed to get a touchdown to tie the game.

[geezer]

UCA took the ensuing kickoff and had a quick drive for another touchdown to take a 14 - 7 lead with 5:35 left in the first quarter.

[geezer]

Halftime and UCA is up 21 - 7. Lamar defense has played pretty well overall but has given up a couple of big plays. Offense has struggled as they are unable to establish a running game and quarterback Allen was injured with a couple of minutes left in the half.

[PeckEm]

Halftime and UCA is up 21 - 7. Lamar defense has played pretty well overall but has given up a couple of big plays. Offense has struggled as they are unable to establish a running game and quarterback Allen was injured with a couple of minutes left in the half.

 

Well, at least the offense looked like it was trying to score...and we actually threw the ball downfield some. If our receivers could catch and/or time a jump we could have had a couple of more scores. Defense, smh...friggin gave up sooo many big plays.

[geezer]

Yes the defense gave up too many big plays but when your offense gets a total of three plays in each of the first five or six possessions including the one that resulted in the touchdown following the interception near midfield by the defense, it's just hard to blame them for much during this game. Granted UCA played a lot of second and third stringers in the fourth quarter but McKenzie made some decent throws. Does anyone know if Shultz is really redshirting Morse looking to give him a real shot at potentially three years as a starter behind a better offensive line assuming he can recruit one or is Morse just SOL and should go somewhere else?

[spoonbill]

Yes the defense gave up too many big plays but when your offense gets a total of three plays in each of the first five or six possessions including the one that resulted in the touchdown following the interception near midfield by the defense, it's just hard to blame them for much during this game. Granted UCA played a lot of second and third stringers in the fourth quarter but McKenzie made some decent throws. Does anyone know if Shultz is really redshirting Morse looking to give him a real shot at potentially three years as a starter behind a better offensive line assuming he can recruit one or is Morse just SOL and should go somewhere else?

 

Lamar should have put in some second stringers when the game got out of hand. The defense played decent but got gouged for big plays too much. The current receivers can't catch for some reason. I'm not sure what the plan is for the last couple games, but I hear Allen is done and Colbert is done too. McKenzie has had durability issues and our line isn't the best. Our starting center is done for the year also. I wouldn't think they'd want to pull Morse' redshirt this late. They may go to Williams in a pinch....possibly Robinson in an emergency. This whole "dual threat" QB situation is a nightmare. Start next year and let Morse chunk it and run "real" offensive plays. I think the defense will come around and some of the young lineman will get bigger and stronger plus we'll add some Juco guys on both sides of the line. Trying to stay positive. Play more young kids a SEE whether they can contribute next year. This year is toast.

[PeckEm]

Yes the defense gave up too many big plays but when your offense gets a total of three plays in each of the first five or six possessions including the one that resulted in the touchdown following the interception near midfield by the defense, it's just hard to blame them for much during this game. Granted UCA played a lot of second and third stringers in the fourth quarter but McKenzie made some decent throws. Does anyone know if Shultz is really redshirting Morse looking to give him a real shot at potentially three years as a starter behind a better offensive line assuming he can recruit one or is Morse just SOL and should go somewhere else?

 

Well I don’t know how long we can blame the offense for the defenses problem.

 

Anyway,he has to be planning on redshirting Morse. He purposely called a timeout in the second half when McKenzie lost his helmet. I thought McKenzie played pretty dang good. So far, from what I’ve seen, Schulz picked the 3rd (probably 4th)best option at QB: 1) Allen, 2) McKenzie, 3) Colbert. If we’d seen Morse this year I’m sure he’d be behind him in my “rankings”

[PeckEm]

Lamar should have put in some second stringers when the game got out of hand. The defense played decent but got gouged for big plays too much. The current receivers can't catch for some reason. I'm not sure what the plan is for the last couple games, but I hear Allen is done and Colbert is done too. McKenzie has had durability issues and our line isn't the best. Our starting center is done for the year also. I wouldn't think they'd want to pull Morse' redshirt this late. They may go to Williams in a pinch....possibly Robinson in an emergency. This whole "dual threat" QB situation is a nightmare. Start next year and let Morse chunk it and run "real" offensive plays. I think the defense will come around and some of the young lineman will get bigger and stronger plus we'll add some Juco guys on both sides of the line. Trying to stay positive. Play more young kids a SEE whether they can contribute next year. This year is toast.

 

Umm...they’ve been playing a ton of young kids. I think we would have easily put up 400 yds IF the damn receivers could catch. I agree, Redshirt Morse, scrap this dual threat bs, start Morse next year unless we recruit someone who THROWS better.

 

It looked like we ran a few decent plays this week and we threw the ball downfield!! I was stunned.

 

What’s the deal with wanzaa?

[spoonbill]

Umm...they’ve been playing a ton of young kids. I think we would have easily put up 400 yds IF the damn receivers could catch. I agree, Redshirt Morse, scrap this dual threat bs, start Morse next year unless we recruit someone who THROWS better.

 

It looked like we ran a few decent plays this week and we threw the ball downfield!! I was stunned.

 

What’s the deal with wanzaa?

 

Wanza looked to have pulled a hamstring 2 games ago. I would bet he's out the rest of the season. It didn't look good. I'm hoping the vertical passing game is here to stay. Eventually the kids will catch the ball or be replaced. It's not like they've had much game time experience catching those balls lol. Morse has the best arm on the team by far but this year is over.

[spoonbill]

Well I don’t know how long we can blame the offense for the defenses problem.

 

Anyway,he has to be planning on redshirting Morse. He purposely called a timeout in the second half when McKenzie lost his helmet. I thought McKenzie played pretty dang good. So far, from what I’ve seen, Schulz picked the 3rd (probably 4th)best option at QB: 1) Allen, 2) McKenzie, 3) Colbert. If we’d seen Morse this year I’m sure he’d be behind him in my “rankings”

 

I guess you didn't watch last year because Morse has the better arm of all four. You'd better add Williams in your assessment too. You may see him next game. Just sayin

[spoonbill]

Umm...they’ve been playing a ton of young kids. I think we would have easily put up 400 yds IF the damn receivers could catch. I agree, Redshirt Morse, scrap this dual threat bs, start Morse next year unless we recruit someone who THROWS better.

 

It looked like we ran a few decent plays this week and we threw the ball downfield!! I was stunned.

 

What’s the deal with wanzaa?

 

The young kids I'm talking about aren't the ones playing out of necessity. I'm talking about the 2s and/or 3s that should be in the games in these blow outs. The coaches need to see who will show up under the game day lights during this wasted season. They need to, or should be making some hard decisions this off season on some of these kids. Some kids shine under game pressure and some wilt. They should know what they have in the kids that have been playing regularly good or bad. That's what "good" coaches do in garbage time and there's been plenty in a few games. Lamar kept the game close for a while last night, but the whole 4th qtr was "garbage time".

[puddin tane]

Umm...they’ve been playing a ton of young kids. I think we would have easily put up 400 yds IF the damn receivers could catch. I agree, Redshirt Morse, scrap this dual threat bs, start Morse next year unless we recruit someone who THROWS better.

 

It looked like we ran a few decent plays this week and we threw the ball downfield!! I was stunned.

 

What’s the deal with wanzaa?

 

We had at times, 5 true freshman playing on defense, according to Schultz interview.

 

For others not getting playing time, I figure (unless you're a true freshman getting redshirted, a walk on or injured) if ya aint playing this year, you might as well pack up the gear cuz you dont fit into Schultz "scheme".

Edited November 5, 2017 by puddin tane

[PeckEm]

I guess you didn't watch last year because Morse has the better arm of all four. You'd better add Williams in your assessment too. You may see him next game. Just sayin

 

I did watch last year and expected that Morse would have been in contention for the starting job. However, I don’t think he was ever remotely considered for the job this hear. So, maybe he suddenly can’t thtow? Idk but it would be dumb to play him this year IF the coaches think he even has a chance to play in their “system”

[puddin tane]

I did watch last year and expected that Morse would have been in contention for the starting job. However, I don’t think he was ever remotely considered for the job this hear. So, maybe he suddenly can’t thtow? Idk but it would be dumb to play him this year IF the coaches think he even has a chance to play in their “system”

 

i dont think passing is part of his "system". last resort......

[WildCard]

Lamar should have put in some second stringers when the game got out of hand. The defense played decent but got gouged for big plays too much. The current receivers can't catch for some reason. I'm not sure what the plan is for the last couple games, but I hear Allen is done and Colbert is done too. McKenzie has had durability issues and our line isn't the best. Our starting center is done for the year also. I wouldn't think they'd want to pull Morse' redshirt this late. They may go to Williams in a pinch....possibly Robinson in an emergency. This whole "dual threat" QB situation is a nightmare. Start next year and let Morse chunk it and run "real" offensive plays. I think the defense will come around and some of the young lineman will get bigger and stronger plus we'll add some Juco guys on both sides of the line. Trying to stay positive. Play more young kids a SEE whether they can contribute next year. This year is toast.

 

Hope they don't play Morse at this point because it would be two years in a row of having his redshirt burned late in the year. I'm not sure that staff plans to give him a chance anyway. At Cardinal Club, after the coach's rah-rah speech, someone asked about a redshirting quarterback. I thought he was asking about Morse but the answer was about how much he liked Jack Dallas--no mention of Morse.

[spoonbill]

Hope they don't play Morse at this point because it would be two years in a row of having his redshirt burned late in the year. I'm not sure that staff plans to give him a chance anyway. At Cardinal Club, after the coach's rah-rah speech, someone asked about a redshirting quarterback. I thought he was asking about Morse but the answer was about how much he liked Jack Dallas--no mention of Morse.

 

If they waste Morse' arm talent, they're idiots. At least in this game they threw some vertical stuff. The receivers need to step up and, like, catch. Ditch the dang dual threat QB crap already!!!

[eagle eye]

I’ve said this before when people wanted to run Tic Price out of town even thought he turned a 4-26 team into a 15-15 team in his first full season. I said the same even before that when people wanted to fire Ray Woodard. You have to give a new coach at least 3 full seasons, preferably 4, so his first recruits can get to be juniors and seniors and you see where the team is going. You can’t change coaches every year and expect a positive result. Coach Schulz has a rough year but a lot of young guys got some great experience. This season isn’t over but it’s not really too early to cast an eye ahead into 2018. Thank Cardinal players for all your hard work and effort.

[eagle eye]

BTW, Coach Ray has a player in the NFL. That would be CB Brendan Langley who has also returned some kicks for the Denver Broncos! Ray also had multiple players including Kade Harrington was was in the Dallas Cowboys trading camp as an UFA.

[puddin tane]

BTW, Coach Ray has a player in the NFL. That would be CB Brendan Langley who has also returned some kicks for the Denver Broncos! Ray also had multiple players including Kade Harrington was was in the Dallas Cowboys trading camp as an UFA.

 

 

 

Pat Knight coached Mike James......should we have kept Knight as coach?

[WildCard]

Pat Knight coached Mike James......should we have kept Knight as coach?

 

Pat Knight, probably the laziest coach, we ever hired did not recruit Mike James, Roc did.

[spoonbill]

I’ve said this before when people wanted to run Tic Price out of town even thought he turned a 4-26 team into a 15-15 team in his first full season. I said the same even before that when people wanted to fire Ray Woodard. You have to give a new coach at least 3 full seasons, preferably 4, so his first recruits can get to be juniors and seniors and you see where the team is going. You can’t change coaches every year and expect a positive result. Coach Schulz has a rough year but a lot of young guys got some great experience. This season isn’t over but it’s not really too early to cast an eye ahead into 2018. Thank Cardinal players for all your hard work and effort.

 

The kids are still playing hard until the whistle. I'll give Shultz that. The game plan seemed better this game also. Better late than never maybe. Must win this Saturday.

[PeckEm]

I’ve said this before when people wanted to run Tic Price out of town even thought he turned a 4-26 team into a 15-15 team in his first full season. I said the same even before that when people wanted to fire Ray Woodard. You have to give a new coach at least 3 full seasons, preferably 4, so his first recruits can get to be juniors and seniors and you see where the team is going. You can’t change coaches every year and expect a positive result. Coach Schulz has a rough year but a lot of young guys got some great experience. This season isn’t over but it’s not really too early to cast an eye ahead into 2018. Thank Cardinal players for all your hard work and effort.

 

Ok, in 2-3 years I’ll be on here saying “I told you so”. We are optimistic after getting drubbed 42-14, that should speak volumes. The crap (and I don’t mean the players) he’s put on the field is epic.