Does Rossomando Get an Extension?

[TexGator]

Given the culture change and better results on the field, is it time for O'Malley to start talking to Rossomando about an extension- one that will keep him from wanting to interview for other jobs?

I'm not saying another school will pluck him up after going 13-10 the first 2 years, the trajectory of the program makes it where an opening somewhere next year might get some tougher calls for his agent to return with "Coach Rossomando is grateful you appreciated his work enough to extend an offer to interview, but he's very happy at Lamar."

Don't worry- I think Rice is going to first look at Clint Killough or K. C. Keeler, but Rosso has definitely earned, in my opinion, a little additional job security (But I'm not writing the whole check for the additional money- I'm not that well off).

[NorthoftheBorder]

10 hours ago, TexGator said:

Given the culture change and better results on the field, is it time for O'Malley to start talking to Rossomando about an extension- one that will keep him from wanting to interview for other jobs?

I'm not saying another school will pluck him up after going 13-10 the first 2 years, the trajectory of the program makes it where an opening somewhere next year might get some tougher calls for his agent to return with "Coach Rossomando is grateful you appreciated his work enough to extend an offer to interview, but he's very happy at Lamar."

Don't worry- I think Rice is going to first look at Clint Killough or K. C. Keeler, but Rosso has definitely earned, in my opinion, a little additional job security (But I'm not writing the whole check for the additional money- I'm not that well off).

I think that most of our friends on here are not all that enthralled with Rossomando.  Yeah, he has changed the trajectory, but most of the regulars here want to throw the ball 75% of the time.  Rosso & Flemings' philosophy is 60-40 run heavy and that bores most of the fans on here. 

I am good running the ball a little more than passing, as long as it is successful and we win.  For me, the most exciting plays are generally watching a player maneuver through traffic, juking and running over defensive players.  That can be a back taking a handoff, or a WR running after catching the ball.  But bottom line, winning championships is tantamount.  If we were 11-1, won the SLC, had a high seed in the playoffs and made a deep run, then I am positive no one would have a problem with a 60-40 run oriented offense.

Having said all that, I would like to keep Rossomando around a while and give him the chance to continue to develop the program. We all know we are better off than we were.

[TexGator]

11 hours ago, NorthoftheBorder said:

I think that most of our friends on here are not all that enthralled with Rossomando.  Yeah, he has changed the trajectory, but most of the regulars here want to throw the ball 75% of the time.  Rosso & Flemings' philosophy is 60-40 run heavy and that bores most of the fans on here. 

I am good running the ball a little more than passing, as long as it is successful and we win.  For me, the most exciting plays are generally watching a player maneuver through traffic, juking and running over defensive players.  That can be a back taking a handoff, or a WR running after catching the ball.  But bottom line, winning championships is tantamount.  If we were 11-1, won the SLC, had a high seed in the playoffs and made a deep run, then I am positive no one would have a problem with a 60-40 run oriented offense.

Having said all that, I would like to keep Rossomando around a while and give him the chance to continue to develop the program. We all know we are better off than we were.

People that think they know better than a coach are idiots.
You are spot on that, if the Southeastern game went the Cards way and they made the playoffs, there would still be skeptics of the system.

[geezer]

As far as an extension is concerned, it depends on when his contract ends.  If he has two years left then don't do anything now but be ready to do something next fall as you see next season unfold.  You can do the extension during the season if warranted.  As far as the play calling and run / pass ratio, no one will really care if you just win.  Conference championships and playoffs will eventually bring in the fans.  

[NorthoftheBorder]

One other thing about running, when Kade Herrington was going consistently for 200+ yards/game and juking Sam Houston players out of their jockstraps and then taking it to the house, know one was screaming (at least not loud enough to hear) to throw the ball.  If Herrington was on the team this year and ran for 2,000+ yards and we were 10-2 or 11-1 and making noise in the playoffs, we would all be ecstatic with the results!

[coachacola]

If LU had a better throwing QB and better OL they probably would throw more.  I think a lot of that depends on the personnel.

BTW, why was Longino in the McNeese game?  He  made some good accurate passes.  Was Coleman hurt or Longino in the game because of his arm?

[puddin tane]

4 hours ago, NorthoftheBorder said:

One other thing about running, when Kade Herrington was going consistently for 200+ yards/game and juking Sam Houston players out of their jockstraps and then taking it to the house, know one was screaming (at least not loud enough to hear) to throw the ball.  If Herrington was on the team this year and ran for 2,000+ yards and we were 10-2 or 11-1 and making noise in the playoffs, we would all be ecstatic with the results!

Harrington didnt run the same play 45 times a game. There was some diversity

[puddin tane]

3 hours ago, coachacola said:

If LU had a better throwing QB and better OL they probably would throw more.  I think a lot of that depends on the personnel.

BTW, why was Longino in the McNeese game?  He  made some good accurate passes.  Was Coleman hurt or Longino in the game because of his arm?

No, i dont think so. Rossomundo has said from the beginning, he wants to run and control the clock.

[puddin tane]

3 hours ago, coachacola said:

If LU had a better throwing QB and better OL they probably would throw more.  I think a lot of that depends on the personnel.

BTW, why was Longino in the McNeese game?  He  made some good accurate passes.  Was Coleman hurt or Longino in the game because of his arm?

Coleman got tossed for throwing a punch.  He also had a personal foul a few plays earlier.

[LU17]

I am pretty sure Coleman was ejected…

[puddin tane]

Lu had 3 lineman 2nd team all conference.  But our pass blocking was fricking horrible.  Doesnt make sense.

[puddin tane]

But what do i know.  Im just one of idiots who enjoy passing over running.

 

Rossomundo has done a good job. But he HAS to address the frickin discipline and personal fouls. And the gang banger like bullshite in McNeese game.

[WildCard]

11 hours ago, puddin tane said:

 

But what do i know.  Im just one of idiots who enjoy passing over running.

 

Rossomundo has done a good job. But he HAS to address the frickin discipline and personal fouls. And the gang banger like bullshite in McNeese game.

I'm one of those people who thinks winning is better than losing.  I appreciate a coach who plays the style that gives his team the best chance to win. 

 

I agree with the discipline comment.  We were one the most penalized team anywhere.

[TexGator]

11 hours ago, WildCard said:

I'm one of those people who thinks winning is better than losing.  I appreciate a coach who plays the style that gives his team the best chance to win. 

 

I agree with the discipline comment.  We were one the most penalized team anywhere.

Turns out that we're not one of the most penalized teams.

[puddin tane]

Luckily the bazillion offsetting penalties at Mcneese dont show up for either team

[puddin tane]

We had 58 penalties before conference even started….fuzzy math

[puddin tane]

Ncaa stats have us 11th in the nation with 96 penalties.  Altho i think the actual number is an even 100

[WildCard]

Whatever the number, this team was hurt by penalties

 

[TexGator]

On 11/29/2024 at 1:29 AM, puddin tane said:

Ncaa stats have us 11th in the nation with 96 penalties.  Altho i think the actual number is an even 100

They had 42 combined penalties (for 365 yards) in the Texas State, MVSU, and Texas Southern games.
... while their opponents had 36 (for 304 yards). That sounds, as much as anything, that those refs just called the game really tightly- especially in the MVSU game.

We went 2-1 in those games. 

(and, unless I typed something in wrong, it was 99 penalties for 869 yards)

But, getting this thread back on the rails, while I'd like the penalties to decrease, I don't think "number of penalties in non-conference" is a decision-maker in an extension for Rosso, when it's a subjective stat- if a team makes good plays, they don't accept as many penalties.

While it's not the be all, end all in this transfer portal era we've created, recruits aren't keen on committing to a school and coach that aren't committed to being there through the end of that student's eligibility. If memory serves, he got a 5-year deal... which means the guys Rosso's recruiting in the Classes of '26 and '27 only have an assurance he's going to be there for their first year or two.

[geezer]

I'm not too sure that there is much loyalty anywhere.  Seems like the upper tier coaches move on to the next job as soon as they get a chance.  With the transfer portal, players are looking for a better opportunity every year, especially if they don't think they were treated right.  Personally, I don't think Rossomando has done enough yet to be considered for an extension in year two of a five-year contract.

[TexGator]

On 11/30/2024 at 10:48 PM, geezer said:

I'm not too sure that there is much loyalty anywhere.  Seems like the upper tier coaches move on to the next job as soon as they get a chance.  With the transfer portal, players are looking for a better opportunity every year, especially if they don't think they were treated right.  Personally, I don't think Rossomando has done enough yet to be considered for an extension in year two of a five-year contract.

I don't disagree that it's not as the bar-none top priority it used to be but I've talked with plenty of guys coming out the last couple of years and they've all said it's still something that want- they want a "home"... even if it's only for a couple of years because they're seeing the numbers and FCS guys who enter the portal usually don't end up with a better stiuation.

The classes of '26 and '27 don't want to have to re-start their recruitment. It's exciting to be wanted and the money is nice, but they also know this world of open, unrestricted transfers could end any day and the NCAA announces the rules are different w/o any grandfather clause.

Adding even 1 year onto his contract can be a deal-maker for guys.

[TexGator]

I guess I was right that O'Malley would be working on an extension for Rosso.

No, I don't have any inside information; just knew that, if you have a couple of good seasons that change the trajectory, you invest the money to extend the guy.
Even in this era where the portal and cash are kings, players want the stability of knowing, ceteris peribus, that's your coach for the duration of your time with the school.

If you're an employee, you feel uneasy if the leadership isn't stable; they're kids- they need it more than we do.

[NorthoftheBorder]

On 12/19/2024 at 7:32 AM, TexGator said:

I guess I was right that O'Malley would be working on an extension for Rosso.

No, I don't have any inside information; just knew that, if you have a couple of good seasons that change the trajectory, you invest the money to extend the guy.
Even in this era where the portal and cash are kings, players want the stability of knowing, ceteris peribus, that's your coach for the duration of your time with the school.

If you're an employee, you feel uneasy if the leadership isn't stable; they're kids- they need it more than we do.

I do not have a problem with Rossomando gettting an extension.  I hope he rewards O'Malley with getting the Cards into the FCS playoffs and making deep runs.  

[geezer]

I don't have a problem with an extension but I think there are other ways to support and show appreciation for what a coach does.  Give me a Tommy Lasorda who worked on one-year contracts with the Dodgers for well over a decade.  MLB is definitely not loyal to managers in general.

[TexGator]

14 hours ago, geezer said:

I don't have a problem with an extension but I think there are other ways to support and show appreciation for what a coach does.  Give me a Tommy Lasorda who worked on one-year contracts with the Dodgers for well over a decade.  MLB is definitely not loyal to managers in general.

While it's famously true that Lasorda worked off one-year contracts, you're talking about professional sports. In the professional ranks, the coach isn't also constructing the roster themselves, acting as a de facto Director of Player Personnel.