KABrother88 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Kickoff set for 6:00 PM Saturday against the Incarnate Word Cardinals at Benson Stadium in San Antonio Lamar Game Notes | Incarnate Word Game Notes | Live Stats | Video | Audio | Tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcam2903 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Working, can't make the trip, but my Family & a few friends will make the trip to support big red. Hopefully the bye healed some injuries & egos. Still a lot of Football to play. Randle Jr will be facing his cousin WR Gilbert for the 3rd & last time. Family record is 1-1 Let's go LU!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Yea football. With six games left this is a must win for the Cards if they have any shot at salvaging a winning season. Hopefully the bye week allowed them time to fix some things. Penalties have to be reduced and the offense has to move the ball and score. Defense has to be disciplined in their assignments and tackle as opposed to trying to bump the runner down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcam2903 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Glad you mentioned tackling. I spoke with a few guys that Coach young kids about the art of tackling. Their opinions range from Coaches not wanting to get players hurt during practice to guys trying to strip the ball away instead of tackling. This has been an issue for LU the last few years. Offensively, how can we move the ball up the field consistently? We need a spark from some phase of the game to get rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 There may have been just as many concussions in the old days as today but I don't think so. I think at least some of the problems with concussions is the lack of tackling fundamentals. Seems like to many of the attempted tackles are simply running full speed into the runner or worse launching the body at the runner to try to knock them down. I don't know what all the effects would be, but I would like for the officials to revert to how they used to call roughing the passer and a couple of other things. When I played if you touched the quarterback after he released the ball unless you tipped the ball you were called for roughing the passer. Imagine how much that would slow down the pass rush. You might have to do something else such as loosen up the pass interference rules allowing more contact before the ball arrives to compensate for the extra second that the quarter back might have to get a pass off, but maybe you wouldn't see quite as many injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABrother88 Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 There may have been just as many concussions in the old days as today but I don't think so. I think at least some of the problems with concussions is the lack of tackling fundamentals. Seems like to many of the attempted tackles are simply running full speed into the runner or worse launching the body at the runner to try to knock them down. I don't know what all the effects would be, but I would like for the officials to revert to how they used to call roughing the passer and a couple of other things. When I played if you touched the quarterback after he released the ball unless you tipped the ball you were called for roughing the passer. Imagine how much that would slow down the pass rush. You might have to do something else such as loosen up the pass interference rules allowing more contact before the ball arrives to compensate for the extra second that the quarter back might have to get a pass off, but maybe you wouldn't see quite as many injuries. Ding ding ding. So many players are going for the big highlight worthy hit. I’ve always been of the opinion that there is a direct correlation between the decrease of good, heads up form tackles and increase of concussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Yea football. With six games left this is a must win for the Cards if they have any shot at salvaging a winning season. Hopefully the bye week allowed them time to fix some things. Penalties have to be reduced and the offense has to move the ball and score. Defense has to be disciplined in their assignments and tackle as opposed to trying to bump the runner down. shite, I'm hoping they can get one more win...and hold Slam Houston under 80 points next game whats been playing thus far is a 1-10 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckEm Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 shite, I'm hoping they can get one more win...and hold Slam Houston under 80 points next game whats been playing thus far is a 1-10 team Geezer is the ultimate optimist. I'm the ultimate pessimist. I agree with you on this. I think, unless there are drastic changes, this is our last shot at a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckEm Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Glad you mentioned tackling. I spoke with a few guys that Coach young kids about the art of tackling. Their opinions range from Coaches not wanting to get players hurt during practice to guys trying to strip the ball away instead of tackling. This has been an issue for LU the last few years. Offensively, how can we move the ball up the field consistently? We need a spark from some phase of the game to get rolling. Interesting regarding the strip the ball comment. I think there are coaches that emphasize/coach that. I want turnovers as much as anyone else but secure the tackle first. We definitely need a spark but we also just need much better play on both sides of the ball. And we HAVE to find something we are good at on offense. We HAVE to figure out how to get something in the passing game, and I mean more than just one fluke play. The QB play has been subpar and way too inconsistent and we desperately need a go to receiver to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcam2903 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Interesting regarding the strip the ball comment. I think there are coaches that emphasize/coach that. I want turnovers as much as anyone else but secure the tackle first. We definitely need a spark but we also just need much better play on both sides of the ball. And we HAVE to find something we are good at on offense. We HAVE to figure out how to get something in the passing game, and I mean more than just one fluke play. The QB play has been subpar and way too inconsistent and we desperately need a go to receiver to step up. We may not agree on everything, but I totally agree. This has been really rough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Really disappointed in Lamar so far this game especially after a bye week. Expected some changes but doesn't seem to be any real changes. UIW got touchdowns on their first two possessions. Lamar got a field goal following a UIW turnover but the offense has been it usual inconsistent to this point. UIW has no wins to date. Randle had a good punt return with about four minutes left in the first half to set Lamar up deep in UIW territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lamar takes advantage of the punt return and a couple of UIW penalties to get a touchdown and close the gap to 14-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Defense lays an egg and gives up a 74 yard touchdown run to Mitchell as UIW extends the lead back to a ten point lead as UIW misses the extra point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Defense lays an egg and gives up a 74 yard touchdown run to Mitchell as UIW extends the lead back to a ten point lead as UIW misses the extra point. Major suckage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckEm Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Major suckage Can we fire a coach in his first year? What the hell was that play calling on the second to last series? Allen is better than Colbert but does he realize that more than one receiver goes out on a route in a pass play? Back to play calling, it's horrible!!! Edited October 15, 2017 by PeckEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Why do we always have to suck? What is the damn problem? I was looking at UIW's band and it looked like they were wearing Kelly High School's hand me down, homemade, black overalls?!? Can/will we EVER hire the right damn person that actually knows how to win?? How much money do I have to keep throwing away to watch as lose to the likes of junior colleges?!?! I can't stand this shit!!!! UIW was winless?? Do you realize, not only do we just suck, we are the worst team in the conference??!! A conference that include UIW, HBU, and Abilene Christian??!!!! Massey's will have us just about worst FCS team in the nation and rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 You play with what you got and it's not like Woodard left a lot. As for firing a couch, It's their first year; not gonna happen and shouldn't happen. Yeah, it seems that there are a lot of subpar areas of performance but the kids are playing hard. Defensively, we are just overwhelmed on the DL and I don't like the whole scheme. I suspect that the DC will be replaced for next year. Until then, hunker down and hang on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Lack of size, speed, talent, execution or coaching. Not sure which are the problems with this team but I hope we start to see some changes next year as I believe the rest of this year is going to be ugly. It's easy to blame the play calling or scheme but if another team is using the same plays and winning then it's not the play calling. Lamar obliviously doesn't have a good enough O-line or D-line and the QB's aren't making the most of what is available. We will have to wait and see if the size and talent improve with the next recruiting class. Edited October 15, 2017 by geezer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 You play with what you got and it's not like Woodard left a lot. As for firing a couch, It's their first year; not gonna happen and shouldn't happen. Yeah, it seems that there are a lot of subpar areas of performance but the kids are playing hard. Defensively, we are just overwhelmed on the DL and I don't like the whole scheme. I suspect that the DC will be replaced for next year. Until then, hunker down and hang on. Fasten your seat belts, we're in for a bumpy ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 fire him before he kills the program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Fasten your seat belts, we're in for a bumpy ride! Ain't any bumps. It's the Super Slide to Suckage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU17 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Fire the head coach before he kills the program, huh? Well we all know our AD doesn’t have the nads to do that, but killing the program...well we may be headed that way! we look like a bad DIII program playing in the SLC. I wonder how bad this train wreck of a season is going to hurt recruiting, current players on team and this current coaching staff. I know our players aren’t this bad. It’s got to be coaching,play calling and schemes. SHSU is going to up their stats this week at our expense. This guy is making more than Woodard, does anybody know his buyout. I’m sick of getting blasted every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I believe we have talent, maybe not to win the SLC, but enough to be competitive in every game- like Northwestern State and ACU. The execution and play calling is horrible-and seems to be getting worse. I feel sorry for the current players that have to endure another season with no hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Personally I'm not so sure about the talent. I know most people think of southeast Texas as a football mecca and every player that can play high school ball in SETX has talent but not all have D-1 talent and I'm afraid we may be getting more of the ones that don't have D-1 talent than we think. As late as this coaching staff was hired I have a hard time laying all of the blame on them. I think most would agree that Lamar lacks in the size category compared to other SLC top tier teams. Speed wise Lamar is getting beat on too many deep balls so either the DBs are slower than the recruiting times listed or they have poor technique and therefore get beat by the route the opponents run. Last option Lamar players don't have the football intelligence to execute the game play. Defensive players take poor angles to where the ball carrier is running, fail to maintain the edge and can't tackle. Rooting for the hometown kid I wish Morse would get a decent shot but whatever the issue is, he hasn't proven himself to be better than the two QBs that have been playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcam2903 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 There is enough talent on the team, they should not be cellar dwellers in the SLC. If players aren't executing & taking wrong angles after 4-5 games, where does the blame lie? Coaches get little credit for the Wins & All the blame for the losses. My question is, when does the Scholarship money starts to decline? Evidently too many on full Scholarship, I would be cutting percentages based on performance. Produce or take a pay cut. Same goes for the Staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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