coachacola Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Does LU have a chance if they beat McNeese? Nicho!!s State should get the automatic bid. Incarnate Ward is 6-2 but don't play again until December 1st against Iowa State so they can't also be in the playoffs. If the SLC gets a second team in then it comes down to LU or ACU. Both are on winning streaks after losing some early conference games. I don't see how the SLC can only we send one team to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KABrother88 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 College Sports Madness has updated their projection bracket and it has Nicholls and Incarnate Word in. The week that Incarnate Word is scheduled to play Iowa State is also the week of the Big 12 championship game. While ISU is sitting 4th currently there is a possibility that they could finish in the top 2 and qualify for the conference champ game. Surely with that being the week of the FCS playoffs starting and the Big 12 champ game there is language in the contract to give each team an out. https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 College Sports Madness has updated their projection bracket and it has Nicholls and Incarnate Word in. The week that Incarnate Word is scheduled to play Iowa State is also the week of the Big 12 championship game. While ISU is sitting 4th currently there is a possibility that they could finish in the top 2 and qualify for the conference champ game. Surely with that being the week of the FCS playoffs starting and the Big 12 champ game there is language in the contract to give each team an out. https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology You're right. This game was scheduled at the last minute and both teams can opt out. So that probably kills any small chance that either LU or ACU had for making the FCS playoffs. https://cyclonefanatic.com/2018/09/iowa-state-football-schedules-incarnate-word-for-dec-1/ So why does have IWU have one less conference game than everyone else? Is it because of a 11 team conference and each year one team will only play 8 conference games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The short answer is yes. To play a full round robin schedule would take ten conference games. With an odd number of teams the conference schedule must have a even number of games for everyone to play the same number of games. If you go to a eight conference game schedule then every year there would be two conference teams that each school would not play at least not as a conference game and each school would have to find another game to play. If the conference went to ten games then with the FCS maximum schedule at eleven games with a 12th game allowed every so many years, conference schools would have to choose between a money game against a FBS school or a game that they could use to get a home game hopefully. That's why twelve team conferences break into divisions where you play a round robin against your division and play half of the other division schools which rotates every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just think if Schultz/Dodd would have made the move to start Hoy earlier in the season, we probably wouldn't be on the outside looking in on the playoffs. Incarnate Word lost to the two best teams in the conference, yet will get in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The bromance with UIW and what's his name is officially OVER. We all agree that Lamar can't win the southland conference but the FCS tournament is still a possibility. According to the https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology website, Nicholl's should be the automatic bid, with UIfreakinW, as the second Southland team in. Just in case an invitation is offered, you can bet UIW and the Southland Conference will make the cancellation call to Ames, Iowa, or they have the number on speed dial. But not so fast, Sparky. The previous week's projection didn't show UIW in so that means its a weekly flux situation and, in that context, anything is possible. With the second selection being an at large invitation, what is the FCS selection committee looking for? For example, why was UIW listed but not Abilene Christian, who could end up with as good of a conference record and a better overall record than UIW. Let's be brutally honest here. If the Southland gets a second team in, it's going to be a Lamar vs Duke NCAA basketball tournament type of seeding. The current bracket projection has UIW vs Jacksonville State. You might as well call it the Christians vs the Lions game. What is the selection committee looking for. I sincerely doubt that good football enters into the conversation of the first round and no Southland team is supposed to survive the first round. Location, infrastructure, or how sexy the story of the match up is is probably closer to the truth. UIW plays in a 6,000 seat stadium, with little parking, and I don't think they have an ESPN contract. Why is UIW listed as the home team vs Jackson State? They play in San Antonio while Jacksonville State has a 4x's as big, of a stadium, but they play in Jacksonville Alabama. San Antonio vs Jacksonville Alabama, I think that the choice is self explanatory. Abilene Christian plays in a 2x's the size and a very nice stadium but I don't think that they have an ESPN contract, strike 1, the parking is a challenge, strike 2, and it's Abilene, strike 3, go sit down.This brings us to Lamar. If Lamar wins out, they will have a sexy storyline, An ESPN contract in hand, a nice stadium with plenty of parking, butt loads of convenient hotel rooms, a good shot at a mild to cool game time temp, and a regional story line of football excellence, aka, Pro Football Capitol of the world. All is not lost, but Lamar has to beat McNeese to have a shot and a good beatdown wouldn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Not so fast on Incarnate Word wanting to get out of their Iowa State guarantee game.They may need the $300,000 to $400,000 they could net after travel expenses from playing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Not so fast on Incarnate Word wanting to get out of their Iowa State guarantee game.They may need the $300,000 to $400,000 they could net after travel expenses from playing the game. Why would Iowa State want to risk injuries by playing and drubbing UIW. Iowa State sweetens the kitty and the game is mutually cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 For Iowa State it provides an extra week of practice between the end of the Big 12 and the bowl games. For FBS and all programs they consider practice days important and want as many as they can get. As far Lamar and the FCS playoffs, I think it is just a pipe dream as the SLC isn't considered that strong of a conference and there are only four non-conference FCS games to look at for the committee. McNeese vs 2-9 Northern Colorado (Big Sky), Sam vs 6-4 independent North Dakota, Northwestern St vs 6-4 Grambling and Sam vs 3-6 Prairie View A&M. SLC record 2-2 for these four games and none of the opponents are upper echelon FCS schools. SLC will be lucky to get two teams in and I won't be surprised if only one gets in if Lamar defeats McNeese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If this game was scheduled, at the first of the season, I can see where playing a FCS team, for the practice, would be a good idea but not at the end of the season. http://www.intellicast.com/Local/History.aspx?location=USIA0026 The average temp in Ames, Iowa, in December, is 15° / 31°, with a record low of -24° (1989), and a record high of 66° (1998). Average precipitation and snow is 1.06" rain and 6.5" snow. Iowa State plays outside, burrrrrr. Once again, why would you want to play some lowly FCS school, in a game, that means absolutely nothing, a game that the faithful really don't care to see and don't spend their money on concessions, a game where you are one hit away from losing a valuable player, with the bowl games just around the corner, vs practicing in a nice indoor warm Bergstrom Football Complex, under controlled practice situations. As far Lamar and the FCS playoffs, I think it is just a pipe dream as the SLC isn't considered that strong of a conference and there are only four non-conference FCS games to look at for the committee. Granted, it is a dream, but dreams sometime come true. You can almost hear the Disney music, can't you? The FCS is looking for their version of the Italian Stallion. Someone, that their version of Apollo Creed vs the Italian Stallion can generate publicity but with their desired ending. They want this. But be careful what you wish for because you might get this. It's happened before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoT2gi430Ec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 say acu and LU win out, I think we are behind ACU in the eyes of the playoff picker people now, if Nichols and acu both spit the bit, and we win...and uiw takes the money game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 usually they fill up the playoffs with the MfrickinVFC, this year they stunk it up. CAA will get quite a few bids to make up for the lack of MVFC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracula Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 with all due respect, I just don't think that the pickers are going by who is the best football team but who has the best story line. If ACU wins out, they would have a 5 game winning streak with a close win over Sam but with losses to McNeese and UIW, plus it gets really cold, in December, in Abilene. If Lamar wins out, they will finish with a 6 game winning streak, with wins over UIW, McNeese, and a butt whopping over Sam. Who has the better storyline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I see the SLC getting the one automatic bid, if there are 2, I think they are Nicholls and UIW. Lamar and ACC will not get any consideration. But it is fun just to think about playoffs for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Stats FCS Poll 18. Nichols 22. McNeese 24. UIW 28. Lamar 35. ACU Central Ark and Sam also have a few votes FCS Coaches Poll 15. Nichols 22. McNeese 26. UIW No other SLC teams with votes. I guess Schultz doesn't have any friends in the FCS coaching ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 McNeese has lots of key injuries on offense and defense.They are trending down and the Cards should win sixth in a row.Hopefully this selection committee chaired by the Central Arkansas AD respects a strong finish like some past committees.I really think Incarnate Word's budget needs that $300,000 plus guarantee money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Stats FCS Poll 18. Nichols 22. McNeese 24. UIW 28. Lamar 35. ACU Central Ark and Sam also have a few votes FCS Coaches Poll 15. Nichols 22. McNeese 26. UIW No other SLC teams with votes. I guess Schultz doesn't have any friends in the FCS coaching ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddin tane Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 We are getting a little, and i stress little, love on anygivensaturday.com BEAT mcneese! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarWildeCat Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just stopped by to congratulate you on your successful season and found this thread. Who would have imagined at the beginning of the year that UIW, ACU and the Cards would be in the conversation for a playoff bid? Someone mentioned Brad Teague, the UCA AD who chairs the selection committee. If it comes down to one of the three of us, I imagine his word will count for a lot with the others on the committee. He will be in the unique position of having seen all three of our teams in action against the Bears. I’m rooting for y’all this weekend for selfish reasons. If McNeese wins they will move ahead of ACU in the discussion owing to their narrow W over us down in the bayou country. Assuming we both win, I’ll present ACU’s case for why we should get in over Lamar...throwing y’all a little raw meat for you to tear into.... 1. Both Sagarin and Massey rank ACU above Lamar. Massey’s computers like UIW more than either of us, but Sagarin puts ACU over both The Cards and the Faux Cards of San Antonio. 2. ACU is the only one of the three to have beaten our presumptive autobid team, Nicholls. In fact, ACU will have beaten all three of the SLC’s 2017 playoff teams. 3. Both ACU and Lamar will have ended the season on winning streaks, so we both have that going for us over a lot of other “bubble” teams. Basically, I won’t be surprised if you or UIW are picked over us...or if the SLC only gets one team in this year and none of us are chosen. Looking at your two deep, there are good things ahead for both our teams. Is have no idea whether the SLC scheduling gurus will put us back on your schedule, but it would be. I emto llaynas comtendors rather than bottom feeders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'm probably full of ---- but I seriously doubt any SLC team needs to worry about a home playoff game. If LU, IW or UCA get in I would expect to play one of the highest ranked teams that didn't get the first week bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu cards Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 the way i see it is we have to obviously beat mcneese and the bigger margin the better.it would help if central arkansas beat acu.that takes acu out of consideration and we have the advantage over central arkansas due to the way we smoked them.if all this happens it will be between us and iwu and given we beat them head to head and there jacked up schedule i would favor lamar.if the southland doesnt get two teams then none of this matters anyway but damn fun to talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 A few thoughts: Too bad the defense didn't come alive until the IWU game. Defense was giving up and average of 43 points the first 3 conference games, after that a little under 20 point a game. LU needs Nicholls to win to snatch that auto bid and ACU to lose so they drop out of the running for an at-large bid. The SLC is still rated around 5 or 6 among conferences, just like in previous years, so at least 2 teams will get in. So would IWU, 6-4 (against D1 opponents), 6-2 conference record (with a lose at LU) get the bid over LU, 6-4 (against D1 teams), 6-3 conference record (and 6 game winning streak)? Last year's football ratings: 7 Central Arkansas (10-1, made playoffs) 13 SHSU (10-1, made playoffs) 31 McNeese (9-2, not invited) 37 Nicholls State (8-3, made playoffs) 47 SE Louisiana (6-5) This year: 16 Nicholls 32 IWU 38 ACU 45 LU 46 McNeese So again, looks like someone has to be invited, and assuming LU and Nicholls win and ACU loses, then it'll be between IWU and LU with similar rankings. Between IWU and LU, which is the hotter team and who beat who? I like LU's odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachacola Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Another reason to root for a Nicholls State win tomorrow night. Here's an article about UIW: If Southland Conference champ UIW doesn't make that FCS playoffs on Sunday, the talk of a "snub" should be less than with other disappointed teams. If the Cardinals are left out of the 24-team field, that will mean Nicholls beats Southeastern Louisiana Thursday night to claim a share of the Southland title, but also the conference's automatic bid because it holds the tiebreaker over UIW with a head-to-head win. It also will mean the 24th-ranked Cardinals (6-4) didn't earn an at-large bid because they've fallen shy of seven Division I wins, which is preferred by the NCAA selection committee. The Cardinals could have had a shot to earn a seventh win. They were scheduled to host North Alabama Thursday night, but in September the school canceled the game to play a third FBS opponent, Iowa State, Dec. 1 in Ames. The decision has left UIW idle this week. If Nicholls loses and the Cardinals qualify for the playoffs, the Iowa State game will not be played. http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20181113120729518715404&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarWildeCat Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Another reason to root for a Nicholls State win tomorrow night. Here's an article about UIW: http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20181113120729518715404&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS It also will mean the 24th-ranked Cardinals (6-4) didn't earn an at-large bid because they've fallen shy of seven Division I wins, which is preferred by the NCAA selection committee. Uh, oh. The 7 D1 win guideline used by the selection committee will work against Lamar and ACU as well as UIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny1 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Nicholls State beat Southeast Louisiana 44-0 tonight to win the SLC automatic bid to the FCS Playoffs. Now we need to beat McNeese and UCA to beat ACU to have any chance of an at-large bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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